Kimberle Lau didn't set out to become a food founder, but a health crisis changed everything. From beauty executive to CEO of Bake Me Healthy, she built a women- and Asian-owned brand from the ground up while raising a family and navigating the unique hurdles that come with it. In this episode of Great Minds: People & Culture, she sits down with Ren Akinci to talk business, identity, and the lessons she's passing on to her kids.

Our host Ren Akinci is joined by BEJOU founder Carolina Lopez for a candid conversation on leadership, brand building, and resilience. Carolina shares how personal health challenges revealed critical gaps in the skincare industry and pushed her to build a trust driven brand in a crowded market. They discuss navigating rejection, leading with discipline and transparency, and making the hard decisions required to scale with integrity.

Host Ren Akinci is joined by Justin Thomas-Copeland, CEO of the 4As, for a conversation on what matters most as the advertising and marketing industry enters its next phase. Together, they unpack the shifts reshaping agencies, what a modern trade association must deliver in real time, and how the 4As is redefining its role, tools, and member experience. Justin shares how he’s thinking about agility, technology, and measurable signals of progress as he builds the organization’s next chapter.