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What separates great leaders from great performers?

Most of us spend our careers learning how to become experts. Far fewer learn how to become leaders.

In this episode of The Second Shift, I sit down with Dr. Mike Fraser, CEO of the American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP), to explore one of the most important career transitions professionals ever make: the shift from individual achievement to developing others.

Mike shares lessons from leading national physician organizations, building high-performing teams, and helping professionals navigate career transitions. Along the way, we discuss why relationships matter more than résumés, how to create a culture of ownership, why emergency physicians are uniquely suited for second careers, and how our definition of a wealthy life evolves over time.

Whether you're leading a team, considering your next career chapter, or simply trying to build a life of greater purpose, this conversation offers practical wisdom that extends far beyond medicine.

• Why great leaders build people—not just teams
• The difference between management and leadership
• How relationships shape career opportunities
• Lessons on burnout, career longevity, and second shifts
• Why defining "enough" creates freedom
• How legacy ultimately becomes more important than achievement