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Explore John Wesley Powell's legendary 1869 river expedition through the Grand Canyon—the daring exploration that mapped the unmapped and redefined American adventure.

Scott and Jenn share the hidden history visitors miss, take you inside Powell's groundbreaking scientific journey, and reveal why this historic travel destination tells a story far deeper than scenic views.

Perfect for your next Western road trip.

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The Art of Adventure Podcast

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