How better data and operations can help nature restoration projects grow, and how to bring your skills into conservation, with our guest Bernat Fortet.

Picture a tree nursery manager in Panama, raising thousands of tree seedlings - and never finding out what happened to them once they left for the field. Did they survive? Which species did best? It's a gap that runs right through nature restoration, where much of the data still lives on paper, in messaging apps and in scattered spreadsheets.

Today's guest is Bernat Fortet, founder and CEO of Restoration Scope, which builds the digital infrastructure behind restoration projects around the world - from tens of thousands of farmers in Africa to thousands of hectares in Latin America. A designer by trade, Bernat spent 12 years building start-ups in Silicon Valley before switching his skills to nature.

In this episode, we explore why supporting the teams on the ground matters more than chasing reports for funders, why every restoration project is different, and what it means to work at "tree time". We also discuss carbon and biodiversity credits - how they work, why projects need to be so large to make them pay, and why the knowledge gained shouldn't be lost when projects fail. Finally, Bernat shares his journey from designing children's video games to reforestation, and practical advice for anyone looking to bring their skills into conservation - including why you shouldn't wait to start helping.

It's a trees, tech and transparency pod chat. Enjoy.