From Hollywood to Google to Running Your Own Agency
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This week, Phil sits down with Jesse to trace his winding 30-year career — from writing movie taglines in Hollywood (including Saving Private Ryan and The Talented Mr. Ripley) and ghostwriting Pamela Anderson's personal website in the early internet days, to delivering newspapers, working customer service, and eventually landing at Google, where he led a 20-person creative team on the Google Ads account for years. Jesse opens up about getting laid off on his 40th birthday, moonlighting his way into buying a house in San Francisco (and the messy fallout that followed), and the leap into founding his own creative agency after a pivotal stint at Uber. He closes with hard-won advice for young creatives: knock on doors, listen more than you talk, and love the craft.
In this episode:
- Ghostwriting for Pamela Anderson in the early 2000s
- Writing taglines for major Hollywood films
- Odd jobs: newspaper delivery, food bank supervisor, coffee sales
- Leading Google's creative team for 5+ years
- Getting laid off at 40 and the moonlighting gig that funded a house
- Starting an agency after Uber
- Career advice for aspiring copywriters and creatives