In this forward-thinking episode of the Forged in the Fires Podcast, Fireman Rob sits down with Derick Debevoise Dewey, known as Nell 3D, a leadership thinker and human performance strategist helping leaders navigate transformation, complexity, and growth in a rapidly evolving world.

Derick shares his perspective on leadership beyond traditional systems—exploring awareness, adaptability, innovation, and the deeper human elements that drive performance and purpose. Through the lens of NELL 3D, he challenges conventional thinking and encourages leaders to operate with greater clarity, intentionality, and impact.

This conversation dives into mindset evolution, navigating uncertainty, and how individuals and organizations can thrive by understanding both human behavior and high-performance systems.

This episode is about thinking differently, leading intentionally, and growing beyond limitations.

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These special episodes of the Forged in the Fires Podcastwith Fireman Rob dive deeper into the heart behind the book Fighting for Tomorrows.

This isn’t polished. It isn’t filtered. And it isn’t about pretending everything is fine.

These episodes explore the real struggles many of usface—mental health battles, trauma, identity loss, divorce, career setbacks, physical pain, and the silent weight first responders, veterans, leaders, and everyday people carry. Each conversation breaks down themes from the book andconnects them to practical mindset shifts, resilience tools, and honest reflection.

The message is simple: Pain is real. Struggle is part of thejourney. But it is not the end of your story.

These episodes are about choosing to fight forward—even when you feel like giving up. They’re about acknowledging the darkness while building the strength to create a better tomorrow.

📖 Get the book: Fighting for Tomorrows ⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Tomorrows-Firefighter-Resilience-Strength/dp/B0GY8RZ8H5/⁠

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In this impactful episode of the Forged in the Fires Podcast, Fireman Rob sits down with Mike Wynn, former Chief of Police for the Pittsfield Police Department and now the Director of The Quell Foundation’s First Responder Resilience Project (FRRP).

With nearly three decades in law enforcement, Mike has become a respected national voice in officer wellness, leadership, training reform, and mental resilience. He shares the lessons learned from years in public safety leadership, the importance of breaking the stigma surrounding mental health, and how departments can create stronger cultures rooted in support, accountability, and human connection.

Mike also discusses his work with FRRP and the mission to expand awareness, education, and resilience resources for first responders across the country.

This conversation is honest, practical, and deeply important for anyone in public safety, leadership, or high-stress professions.

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🌐 Learn more at quellfrrp.org
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