Marion Nestle is turning 90 today and she has not slowed down. Her new book, Sugar Coated, co-written with former Kellogg vice president Lisa Sutherland, tells the story of US food and nutrition policy through cereal boxes — complete with full-color reproductions of every front and back panel of All-Bran, Rice Krispies, and Froot Loops going back to the early 1900s. Mark and Kate talk with Marion about how Kellogg broke the FDA, why the cereal industry's playbook is identical to the tobacco industry's, and what it means that RFK Jr. just declared war on petroleum dyes. Marion also reveals that Kellogg's original health food cereal was partly invented to stop people from . . . well, you'll see.

Get an excerpt from Sugar Coated on The Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/marion-nestle-sugar-coated/

Here's what Mark and Kate mentioned in today's podcast:

Yeti carbon steel pan: https://yetius.pxf.io/PzgrMz

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Mara Fleishman is the co-founder and CEO of the Chef Ann Foundation, which has reached more than 19,000 schools, 35,000 school food professionals, and nearly 6 million students in its work to replace ultra-processed food with fresh, scratch-cooked meals. Before that, she spent a decade at Whole Foods as their global director of partnerships. We talk about what school food actually looks like now versus what it looked like a generation ago, why the biggest barrier to change is not budget but workforce, and how the Chef Ann Foundation is building purchasing cooperatives that connect small districts directly to local farms. Mark also has some thoughts on MAHA.

Here's what Mark and Kate mentioned in today's podcast:

Look What You Made Me Do, by John Lanchester: https://bookshop.org/a/18956/9781324131342

Whistler, by Ann Patchett: https://bookshop.org/a/18956/9780063511637

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In this revisiting of an episode from last summer, the up and coming queen of ice cream talks to Mark and Kate about how her ice cream brand, Malai, mimics her childhood; what it means to build your own culture; sourcing intentionally with no shortcuts—and why having a values-driven business is so important to her; and why her parents are the best people ever (and her #1 fans).

The Bittman Project is featuring three recipes from Pooja Bavishi's book, Malai:

Cold Coffee Milkshake: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/cold-coffee-milkshake/

Chocolate Cardamom Sauce: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/chocolate-cardamom-sauce/

Crunchy Ice Cream Balls: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/crunchy-ice-cream-balls/

Read more about Pooja on The Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/q-and-a-with-pooja-bavishi/

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