In Part 3 of our continuing conversation, Jim Ellermeyer welcomes back returning guest Joanna Lowe for an unfiltered discussion about grief, anger, trauma, survival, and the complicated reality of healing after profound loss.

Joanna opens up about the experience of widowhood, the emotional isolation of grief, and the well-meaning things people say that often miss the mark. She discusses the importance of allowing yourself to fully feel emotions instead of hiding them, how friends and family supported her during suicidal ideation, and the ways grief reshaped her relationship with her daughter.

The conversation also explores:

How to support someone who is grieving without smothering them
Why “How are you?” can feel impossible to answer
Anger toward God, loved ones, and life itself
Trauma, emotional honesty, and parenting through grief
The balance between needing solitude and needing connection
Why every person experiences grief differently

Joanna also discusses her one-woman show Widow, which she is bringing to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and how storytelling can help teach people how to truly love and support those who are grieving.

Joanna’s work:

The Occasional Epiphany by Joanna Lowe
Cup A Joe Productions Facebook

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In Part 2 of our conversation with Joanna Lowe, we move into a deeply personal and profound discussion about grief, trauma, and what it means to rebuild a life after devastating loss.

Joanna shares the story of losing her husband just months after their marriage—a loss that didn’t just take a partner, but reshaped her entire world. She opens up about experiencing prolonged grief disorder, losing years of her life to trauma, and the physical, emotional, and neurological effects that followed.

This conversation explores:

The reality of grief beyond what society expects
How trauma impacts the body and mind
The loss of identity, faith, and emotional connection
Why “I know how you feel” can be harmful
The importance of sitting with pain instead of trying to fix it

This is not a conversation about “moving on.” It’s about learning to exist again.

Beyond her personal journey, Joanna continues to create across multiple platforms:

🎶 The Occasional Epiphany:
https://ceeteecee.bandcamp.com/album/the-occasional-epiphany

🎙️ The Grin Reapers Club Podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/show/66bwzvlXpuOcdxbk3a2ygo

🎬 Cup a Joe Productions:
https://www.facebook.com/cupajoprod
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In Fishing Without Bait 514 (Part 1), we welcome back Joanna Lowe for the beginning of a powerful and personal conversation.

Joanna shares the unexpected story of how she became a spoken word artist—born from a moment of fear, vulnerability, and the decision to take control. From stepping on stage terrified to finding her voice through performance, this episode explores how courage isn’t the absence of fear—but the willingness to move through it.

The conversation dives into personal responsibility, emotional awareness, and the idea that we “allow” others to influence how we feel. Joanna also shares her journey through creative work, including her music, podcasting, and production projects.

The Occasional Epiphany (Album)
👉 https://ceeteecee.bandcamp.com/album/the-occasional-epiphany

The Grin Reapers Club Podcast
👉 https://open.spotify.com/show/66bwzvlXpuOcdxbk3a2ygo

Cup a Joe Productions
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In this episode of Fishing Without Bait, Jim Ellermeyer and Mike dive into the transformative power of gratitude and what it means to live as a “high-frequency” person.

Drawing from principles rooted in 12-step recovery and mindfulness, Jim explains how shifting your mindset—away from comparison, criticism, and complaint—can fundamentally change your thinking, relationships, and even your brain chemistry. Together, they explore how gratitude isn’t just a feeling, but a disciplined practice that reshapes perspective and attracts more positive, authentic connections.

The conversation also tackles real-world challenges: handling gossip, navigating negativity in professional environments, and learning the “graceful art of leaving” situations that no longer serve you. Through relatable examples and practical techniques—like redirecting conversations or simply saying “I don’t need to know”—listeners gain tools to set boundaries without conflict.

Jim introduces a powerful mindfulness exercise centered on prioritizing who and what you “nourish” in your life, emphasizing the importance of investing energy into supportive relationships rather than draining ones.

This episode is a reminder that everyone is in recovery from something—and that choosing gratitude, awareness, and intentional action can lead to a more fulfilling life.
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This episode of Fishing Without Bait concludes our powerful conversation with Jessie Notarius, known in the wrestling world as The Unwilting Tatiana.

Jessie opens up about the realities behind her wrestling journey—what it truly takes to pursue a passion while navigating injuries, setbacks, and the emotional toll that comes with them. She shares her experience with a recent wrist fracture, the frustration of repeated injuries, and the importance of patience and proper healing.

Beyond wrestling, Jessie explores her creative side through painting and artistic expression, revealing how creativity plays a role in her personal growth and recovery. She also reflects on mentorship, resilience, and the courage it takes to keep going—even when giving up feels easier.

This episode highlights the importance of acceptance, adapting to life’s challenges, and finding meaning in difficult moments. Jessie’s message is clear: even in adversity, there is always something to build from.

Part 3 of our conversation with The Unwilting Tatiana.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Jessie Notarius—known in the wrestling world as The Unwilting Tatiana—we take a deeper dive into self-worth, boundaries, and personal growth.

Jessie reflects on what it truly means to deserve respect, understanding, and equality in relationships, and why settling for less can cost us valuable time and energy. Through thoughtful discussion, we explore how mindfulness and self-awareness can help us build stronger self-esteem and healthier connections.

The conversation also uncovers the contrast between confidence in performance environments—like stepping into the wrestling ring—and the self-doubt that can creep into everyday life. Jessie shares how she manages anxiety, organizes her responsibilities, and approaches challenges with a problem-solving mindset.

We also discuss:
• The power of gratitude and shifting perspective
• How to engage with negativity in a constructive way
• The importance of asking for help and building knowledge
• Translating wrestling preparation into real-life organization

This episode is a powerful reminder that the way we speak to ourselves shapes the life we create.

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In this episode of Fishing Without Bait, Jim Ellermeyer welcomes back Jessie Notarius—also known as pro wrestler The Unwilting Tatiana—for an honest and reflective conversation about life transitions, resilience, and rebuilding after disappointment.

Jessie shares what happened after losing her dream job as a set painter for the Pittsburgh CLO and how that unexpected change forced her to pivot into a completely new career path. From working difficult interim jobs to finding fulfillment in a benefits administration role, Jessie reflects on discovering appreciation, purpose, and contribution in unexpected places.

The conversation explores the importance of taking risks versus gambling, building a stable foundation through relationships, and leaning on community during uncertain times. Jessie also discusses her continued connection to creativity through art and wrestling, including launching a small-scale art venture.

Jim and Jessie dive into deeper themes of mindfulness, including how we minimize our accomplishments, the role of support systems, and the difference between confidence and arrogance—especially in the world of professional wrestling.

This episode is a powerful reminder that life’s direction isn’t always linear, and with support, willingness, and self-awareness, we can rebuild stronger foundations.

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In this powerful continuation of our conversation with Emily, we explore what life looks like after surviving the unimaginable.

Following her daughter McKenna’s life-saving kidney transplant, Emily shares how her perspective on life, fear, and mindfulness has fundamentally shifted. From navigating the uncertainty of a rare genetic condition to balancing the emotional needs of her entire family, Emily opens up about what it truly means to live in the moment.

This episode dives deep into resilience—not as an idea, but as something lived in real time. Emily discusses how focusing on “the next thing” helped her get through overwhelming circumstances, how her recovery journey intersects with motherhood, and why she now sees life as incredibly precious.

Her story is a reminder that even in the darkest moments, we are capable of more than we think.

This is Part 3 of our conversation with Emily.