This episode is unlike anything I’ve ever done on Fire and Soul.

For the first time, I’m the guest on my own show, interviewed by someone who has witnessed every iteration of me in the past nine years—the humbling moments, the expansive breakthroughs, and everything in between.

Jocelyn and I first met inside my very first mastermind after a Tony Robbins firewalk event, which makes the timing of this conversation feel divinely orchestrated. She’s seen me lead from relentless drive, transform through shadow, and learn to show up from a place of genuine wholeness. Together, we reflect on friendship, growth, and what it really means to keep walking each other home.

This conversation goes places I didn’t expect. We talk about:

• How my leadership has evolved from control to surrender, and why I probably wouldn’t have agreed to this interview five years ago.
• The tender moments in our friendship that deepened our bond, including stories we’ve never shared publicly.
• What it really looks like to give yourself permission to be fully human—the messy, the magical, and everything in between.
• The unexpected ways our friendship has been one of sacred reciprocity, where we’ve both been teachers and students for each other.
• What I’d tell someone walking through their own fire right now (spoiler: it’s not sexy, but it’s the truth).

This feels like eavesdropping on a 6 a.m. phone call between soul sisters who’ve walked through heaven and hell together and come out choosing love, presence, and connection again and again.

It’s intimate. It’s unscripted. It’s deeply human.

And it’s a reminder that awakening isn’t about perfection. It’s about presence.

“These are initiatory times, and the fires I truly believe are not here to punish us—they are here to purify us.”

You’re walking through your own fire right now and need a living example of what it looks like to stay anchored in truth.

Or you’re navigating friendship, transformation, or uncertainty and wondering how to keep showing up with your whole heart.

This episode is for anyone ready to stop performing and start being present.

If this episode touched you, I’d love to hear from you. Send me a DM, leave a review on your favorite pod player, or say hi on social media.

With love and fire,

Michelle (and Jocelyn)

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What if awakening isn’t about rising higher but softening into the body and allowing life to hold you? In this solo episode, I open up about what it really means to wake down into myself, to build capacity, stay present with what is, and lead from embodied truth in a season of deep change, endings, and new beginnings.

Over the past year, I’ve been walking through profound initiation in my somatic and attachment training, in my relationship with God, in my business, and in my own body through the threshold of menopause. This journey has stripped away illusion and invited me into something far more real: presence over proving, discernment over doing, embodiment over striving.

In this episode, I share how God became my business partner, how I’m learning to listen to the living language of my body, and why I’ve chosen to honor my nervous system’s truth even when it means being less visible. I also reflect on the shift from Embody Your Higher Purpose to From Insight to Embodiment and how this new foundation is shaping everything I create and share.

Inside this episode, I explore:

• Waking down to the body as the true path of ascension

• Building capacity instead of chasing courage

• How somatics reveals old imprints and restores self-trust

• The sacred initiation of menopause and the healing power of homeopathy

• Living in a personal Year One within a collective Year Nine

• The discernment to share less publicly while expanding inwardly

• Why connection with self, Source, Earth, and one another is what truly matters

If you feel called to join me in this season of embodiment, I’d love to welcome you inside Soul Work Synergy, our living community of Gene Keys and somatic practice. And if you’re craving a deeper immersion, we have two final spaces open for Soul Essence, our upcoming retreat in Ojai, California, November 13 to 17.

Come home to your body. Let presence be enough. Everything else unfolds from there.

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What if the deepest medicine you’re seeking has been alive within you all along?

In this week’s Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear sister Dr. Cass Naumann—doctor of Chinese medicine, ordained Daoist priestess, musician, and ceremonialist—for a profoundly moving conversation on the sacred alchemy of healing.

Cass shares her remarkable journey from musician to healer, and how the initiations of grief, devotion, and spiritual cultivation shaped her path. We explore why ceremony matters so deeply in these times, how our bodies carry the keys to transformation, and what it means to activate our “inner pharmacy” of joy, presence, and connection.

This is one of those deeply rich, heart-opening dialogues that feels like a ceremony in itself, and I'm so excited for you to experience it.

🌿 In this episode, you’ll hear us dive into:

• The moment grief became Cass’s greatest teacher and reoriented her life’s work
• How she bridges Chinese medicine, Daoist priesthood, and ceremonial wisdom
• The questions she asks every patient: What brings you joy? and Do you have a spiritual practice?—and why the answers matter
• Rituals and emotional alchemy practices for transmuting grief, anger, and frustration into virtue
• Why invisibility, Wu Wei (effortless action), and embodied presence are essential medicine right now
• The power of ceremony to bring reverence, belonging, and healing into everyday life
• Cass closes our time with a blessing that will leave you rooted in peace and love

📍 Connect with Dr. Cass

Website: http://doctorcass.com

Instagram: @doctor.cass

📚 Additional Resource

If you feel called to explore the trainings at Trauma and Somatics—the organization Cass and I are currently students of and highly recommend—you can learn more at traumaandsomatics.com

If you decide to move forward with a training, you’re welcome to use the code MICHELLESORRO for a significant savings.

If this conversation nourishes you, share it with a friend and let me know your favorite moment—I love hearing how these dialogues land in your heart.

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What if the remedy to navigating our complex legal and financial systems has been hiding in plain sight within the very documents that created them?

In this episode of Fire and Soul, I dive into equity jurisprudence with Michael Joseph and Phil Mederi of Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. This conversation builds on my explorations of spiritual sovereignty and self-governance, offering what may be the missing piece for those who’ve completed status correction — or are just beginning their journey toward lawful living.

One of the most important clarifications here is that status correction is not required to walk the equity passageway. Equity is not jurisdictional or exclusive. It’s available to every living man and woman because it rests on one truth: we are the creditors of the system. All that’s required is learning how to express that through our signature and knowledge, compelling performance by the letter of the law. What's amazing, is that you don’t need to do anything first in order to access equity and begin freeing yourself from encumbrances.

We explore the core distinctions between “legal” and “lawful,” revealing how equity operates as a private remedy rooted in natural justice. Phil walks us through Black’s Law Dictionary definitions that expose how the legal system distinguishes between substance (lawful/equitable) and form (legal/fictional). We discuss the historical context from 1871 through 1933 that shifted us from gold and silver currency to a debt-based system, and how understanding this history provides pathways to peaceful resolution of public charges and debts.

We also cover the four pathways within Sacred Honor’s Foundation for Self Governance: national status passport, trifecta, allodial land, and equity passage. Our focus is equity as a tool for discharge, dissolution of public contracts, and peaceful inquiry — all designed to help individuals be “left alone” in the private while navigating public affairs with honor and integrity.

About today’s guests:

• Michael Joseph is the host of the Libertishorizon.com Podcast, executive producer & host of Liberty’s Horizon Events, and founding director of Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. A staunch advocate for self-governance, Michael educates on the invisible contracts that bind us to a commercial corporate fiction and shares remedies that empower people to bridge out of the Babylonian system or administer their affairs within it with more power and awareness.
• Phil Mederi is a student and teacher of Equity Jurisprudence and serves as Equity Director at Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. With the conscious awakening accelerating worldwide, Phil is committed to helping bring law into balance with God and natural principles through Equity.

This is essential listening for anyone walking the path of spiritual sovereignty and seeking practical, lawful ways to reclaim their natural rights. Fellowship Link Here

👉 Inside the Fellowship, you’re invited to explore the complimentary ebook Equity Unveiled and watch the edumentary Breaking the Spell. Tap the link below to begin. And if you feel called to join the Equity Passageway, use the code provided for $250 off when you enroll by September 30, 2025. Fellowship Link Here

Let's be free together!

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When life shatters, can love still lead? In this tender, truth-telling conversation, my guest Vickie Menendez — a mother who’s lost four children — shows us how grief can become a doorway to radiant, embodied living.

In this episode of Fire and Soul, I welcome inspirational speaker, Soul Midwife, and author Vickie Menendez to explore what it really means to live again after unimaginable loss. Vickie shares the sacred threads of her story — from the passing of her children and father to the soul contracts, somatic healing, and spiritual devotion that carried her back to life. You’ll hear practical ways to be with grief in the body, create a “beautiful goodbye” visualization, and rebuild nervous-system capacity so presence and connection become possible again. This is a conversation for anyone standing in the in-between: tender, reverent, and full of quiet courage.

I also share a glimpse of Soul Work Synergy, my newest monthly live community where we explore one Gene Key at a time through somatic practice and spiritual devotion. It’s a living rhythm of insight, integration, and spiritual embodiment that I can’t wait to invite you into.

We cover:

• Grief as initiation: moving from survival to soulful rebirth

• Soul contracts and continuing bonds beyond the veil

• Somatic tools that actually help (breathwork, vagal toning, MAP, Yin)

• How stored emotion becomes pain — and how to unwind it

• The “Beautiful Goodbye” practice to reframe final memories

• Parenting, partnership, and community in seasons of loss

• Finding the gold in a painful origin story (music, frequency, and safety)

Resources & links:

Vickie Menendez — site & offerings: [vickiemenendez.com]

Book: Crystal’s Butterfly Effect (includes letters + mandalas)

Event — The Chrysalis Journey: A Virtual Gathering for Grief, Grace, and Learning to Live Again (Oct 4, 2025; virtual + Miami): Register here: https://vickiemenendez.com/

Soul Work Synergy — my brand new monthly live-guided journey (3 weeks on, 1 week off) weaving Gene Keys, somatic wisdom, and spiritual devotion starts 9/15: https://www.michelle-sorro.com/synergy

Gentle note: This episode discusses child loss, addiction, and end-of-life experiences. Please care for your nervous system as you listen.

Timestamps (approx.):

00:00 Opening + why Synergy was born

05:30 Vickie’s story and the first loss

15:40 Addiction, shame, and the art that told the truth

24:50 Soul contracts and ongoing connection

33:10 Hospital as sacred space; the “Beautiful Goodbye”

47:20 Somatic healing that works (breath, vagal toning, MAP)

58:00 The Chrysalis Journey event invitation + closing blessings

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In a world where manipulation masquerades as truth and spiritual bypassing poses as wisdom, how do we find our way back to what's real? I'm exploring this vital question with Aileen Henley, seer, spiritual architect, and creator of the Cosmic Compass.

In this episode, you'll discover:

How to recognize when you're living from mimicry versus your authentic frequency

The difference between 3D reality and 4D virtual experiences, and why integration matters

How discomfort is actually your doorway to growth and deeper self-awareness

Why truth is a geometry and frequency you can learn to attune to

The power of radical self-honesty in breaking free from societal conditioning

How the Cosmic Compass game serves as a mirror for your inner wisdom

Practical ways to choose which "version" of yourself is making decisions

Why your energetic environment impacts your ability to access your truth

The importance of play and authenticity in both life and business

About my guest Aileen Henley:

Aileen is a visionary guide who helps people reconnect with their inner compass through her revolutionary Cosmic Compass game and teachings. After her own awakening at 24, she's spent 17 years helping thousands access their highest guidance from within.

This conversation is perfect for spiritual seekers, entrepreneurs, and anyone ready to stop living from borrowed truth and start embodying their own authentic frequency.

Connect with Aileen:

Website: aileenhenley.com

Find Cosmic Compass games, workshops, retreats, and online programs

Ready to play your way back to your truth?

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Ever felt you're "too sensitive," "too intense," or can't squeeze yourself into the world's idea of normal?

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Dr. Dain Heer, internationally renowned co-creator of Access Consciousness, to explore how your sensitivity is actually your greatest strength and doorway to miraculous living.

Drawing parallels to my own work in somatic healing and embodied leadership, this conversation explores the possibility of healing trauma without having to relive the pain... an approach that may challenge traditional beliefs, but opens a doorway to curiosity and new perspectives. Dr. Dain shares how practical tools, presence, and energy can support spontaneous transformation without necessarily revisiting every wound.

Discover why sensitive souls ("humanoids") are wired differently, and how to embrace your unique energetic blueprint to become the embodied leader you were born to be. Your sensitivity is your superpower. It's time to stop shrinking and start embracing the miracle of who you truly are.

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What if the thing you do 20,000 times a day without thinking is the key to healing chronic illness, integrating trauma, and unlocking divine connection? In this revelatory episode, we explore true healing through the body, not the mind.

I drop in with somatic breathwork facilitator Jake Whan to discover why your nervous system, not your thoughts, determines your capacity to lead, serve, love, and prosper in these times of rapid evolution.

Jake vulnerably shares his awakening journey from contemplating suicide at 24 while battling autoimmune disease, to now guiding over half a million people through breathwork and nervous system healing. His story is a profound reminder that your nervous system is your spiritual operating system.

If you've felt stuck in old patterns despite doing "all the work," burning out from hustle culture, or sensing something blocking your next level of leadership, this conversation will land.

In This Episode:

• Jake's rock-bottom moment and spiritual resurrection
• Why most spiritual leaders are unintentionally disembodied
• Sacred science of breath: natural DMT and pineal gland activation
• Breathwork modalities: somatic vs. holotropic explained
• 4D vs. 5D consciousness and the Matrix trap
• Nervous system coherence as your greatest leadership tool
• Redefining wealth through embodied alignment
• Moving through collective healing with grace
• Guided 2-minute somatic breathwork practice

Key Truths: Your emotions are the gateway—the nervous system is where awakening lands. We're not just healing ourselves; we're clearing collective karma. The breath hold is your bridge to Source consciousness. True safety begins within.

Connect with Jake Whan: Instagram, Free Community: Foundations of Ascension Training: One Heartbeat Retreats (waitlist for Dec/Jan)

Connect with Michelle: Instagram, Soul Essence Retreats (2 seats remain), Soul Work Foundation (waitlist)

For awakening leaders, creatives, and visionaries ready to move from disembodied hustle to embodied sovereignty. If you're feeling called to lead from truth and authentic power, this conversation is your compass.

Truth: Healing doesn't happen in the mind. It happens in the body. The breath is your way in.

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