This episode is unlike anything I’ve ever done on Fire and Soul.

For the first time, I’m the guest on my own show, interviewed by someone who has witnessed every iteration of me in the past nine years—the humbling moments, the expansive breakthroughs, and everything in between.

Jocelyn and I first met inside my very first mastermind after a Tony Robbins firewalk event, which makes the timing of this conversation feel divinely orchestrated. She’s seen me lead from relentless drive, transform through shadow, and learn to show up from a place of genuine wholeness. Together, we reflect on friendship, growth, and what it really means to keep walking each other home.

This conversation goes places I didn’t expect. We talk about:

• How my leadership has evolved from control to surrender, and why I probably wouldn’t have agreed to this interview five years ago.
• The tender moments in our friendship that deepened our bond, including stories we’ve never shared publicly.
• What it really looks like to give yourself permission to be fully human—the messy, the magical, and everything in between.
• The unexpected ways our friendship has been one of sacred reciprocity, where we’ve both been teachers and students for each other.
• What I’d tell someone walking through their own fire right now (spoiler: it’s not sexy, but it’s the truth).

This feels like eavesdropping on a 6 a.m. phone call between soul sisters who’ve walked through heaven and hell together and come out choosing love, presence, and connection again and again.

It’s intimate. It’s unscripted. It’s deeply human.

And it’s a reminder that awakening isn’t about perfection. It’s about presence.

“These are initiatory times, and the fires I truly believe are not here to punish us—they are here to purify us.”

You’re walking through your own fire right now and need a living example of what it looks like to stay anchored in truth.

Or you’re navigating friendship, transformation, or uncertainty and wondering how to keep showing up with your whole heart.

This episode is for anyone ready to stop performing and start being present.

If this episode touched you, I’d love to hear from you. Send me a DM, leave a review on your favorite pod player, or say hi on social media.

With love and fire,

Michelle (and Jocelyn)

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What if awakening isn’t about rising higher but softening into the body and allowing life to hold you? In this solo episode, I open up about what it really means to wake down into myself, to build capacity, stay present with what is, and lead from embodied truth in a season of deep change, endings, and new beginnings.

Over the past year, I’ve been walking through profound initiation in my somatic and attachment training, in my relationship with God, in my business, and in my own body through the threshold of menopause. This journey has stripped away illusion and invited me into something far more real: presence over proving, discernment over doing, embodiment over striving.

In this episode, I share how God became my business partner, how I’m learning to listen to the living language of my body, and why I’ve chosen to honor my nervous system’s truth even when it means being less visible. I also reflect on the shift from Embody Your Higher Purpose to From Insight to Embodiment and how this new foundation is shaping everything I create and share.

Inside this episode, I explore:

• Waking down to the body as the true path of ascension

• Building capacity instead of chasing courage

• How somatics reveals old imprints and restores self-trust

• The sacred initiation of menopause and the healing power of homeopathy

• Living in a personal Year One within a collective Year Nine

• The discernment to share less publicly while expanding inwardly

• Why connection with self, Source, Earth, and one another is what truly matters

If you feel called to join me in this season of embodiment, I’d love to welcome you inside Soul Work Synergy, our living community of Gene Keys and somatic practice. And if you’re craving a deeper immersion, we have two final spaces open for Soul Essence, our upcoming retreat in Ojai, California, November 13 to 17.

Come home to your body. Let presence be enough. Everything else unfolds from there.

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What if the deepest medicine you’re seeking has been alive within you all along?

In this week’s Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear sister Dr. Cass Naumann—doctor of Chinese medicine, ordained Daoist priestess, musician, and ceremonialist—for a profoundly moving conversation on the sacred alchemy of healing.

Cass shares her remarkable journey from musician to healer, and how the initiations of grief, devotion, and spiritual cultivation shaped her path. We explore why ceremony matters so deeply in these times, how our bodies carry the keys to transformation, and what it means to activate our “inner pharmacy” of joy, presence, and connection.

This is one of those deeply rich, heart-opening dialogues that feels like a ceremony in itself, and I'm so excited for you to experience it.

🌿 In this episode, you’ll hear us dive into:

• The moment grief became Cass’s greatest teacher and reoriented her life’s work
• How she bridges Chinese medicine, Daoist priesthood, and ceremonial wisdom
• The questions she asks every patient: What brings you joy? and Do you have a spiritual practice?—and why the answers matter
• Rituals and emotional alchemy practices for transmuting grief, anger, and frustration into virtue
• Why invisibility, Wu Wei (effortless action), and embodied presence are essential medicine right now
• The power of ceremony to bring reverence, belonging, and healing into everyday life
• Cass closes our time with a blessing that will leave you rooted in peace and love

📍 Connect with Dr. Cass

Website: http://doctorcass.com

Instagram: @doctor.cass

📚 Additional Resource

If you feel called to explore the trainings at Trauma and Somatics—the organization Cass and I are currently students of and highly recommend—you can learn more at traumaandsomatics.com

If you decide to move forward with a training, you’re welcome to use the code MICHELLESORRO for a significant savings.

If this conversation nourishes you, share it with a friend and let me know your favorite moment—I love hearing how these dialogues land in your heart.

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