In this episode, I welcome Thomas Restout, Groupe CEO of B2C2, for a rigorous and highly technical conversation on crypto « market making » and the structural differences between traditional finance and blockchain-based markets. Unlike many discussions focused on price or retail narratives, this episode goes deep into balance sheet mechanics, risk management, derivatives infrastructure, and capital efficiency.

We discussed:

• How B2C2 works as a « digital asset securities bank » - providing continuous pricing, OTC execution, and derivatives solutions to institutions, exchanges, and token issuers.
• What market making really means in practice: aggregating fragmented liquidity, holding risk temporarily, and matching client flows / just like in FX, but 24/7.
• The full risk stack behind every trade: credit risk, settlement risk, liquidation risk, regulatory risk and why it's more complex than most people think.
• How B2C2 evolved from cross-exchange arbitrage in 2015 into a regulated OTC model built to compete with the world's top HFT firms.
• Why institutional adoption is « overstated » ETF exposure grew fast, but real on-chain adoption (wallets, stablecoins, infrastructure) is moving much slower than expected.
• Why blockchain settlement is a game changer: near-instant settlement reduces credit risk, speeds up balance sheet rotation, and can dramatically cut margin requirements in derivatives.
• How B2C2's trading engine works in practice: streaming prices via API, internalizing flows, and hedging across 50+ venues including ETFs, spot exchanges, perpetual futures, and DeFi.

A dense and highly educational exchange that connects traditional finance expertise with crypto-native infrastructure, and clarifies what truly changes, and what does not, when markets move on-chain.

Useful links:

Thomas Restout: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-restout-b2c2/

B2C2: http://www.b2c2.com

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This is an excerpt of Solenne's conversation with Thomas Restout, Group CEO of B2C2

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Finscale is much more than a podcast.

It’s an ecosystem that connects key players in the financial sector through networking, coaching, and strategic partnerships.

📢 With Finscale Private Talks, I bring together investors, entrepreneurs, and institutions for high-value private exchanges – I have zero tolerance for bullshit.

🎯 Through my coaching and advisory support, leaders and finance professionals can better structure their vision and accelerate their impact.

🤝 As for partnerships, they create unique opportunities to position yourself at the very heart of the industry’s transformation.

🔗 Discover all the initiatives on the Finscale website : https://finscale.business

Enjoy listening!

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In this episode, I speak with Robin Wauters, European tech ecosystem builder at EU-Inc, about a topic that goes far beyond startups and venture capital headlines: the structural fragmentation of Europe’s innovation landscape — and the ambitious idea behind EU Inc.

Unlike many Finscale conversations focused on a single company or founder journey, this episode zooms out. It explores whether Europe needs a new legal and financial framework to truly compete on a global scale — and what is structurally holding it back today.

We discussed:

• The origin of the EU Inc initiative: a proposal to create a single, pan-European corporate structure that would allow startups to incorporate once and operate seamlessly across all EU member states, instead of navigating 27 different legal systems.
• The concrete friction points founders face today in Europe — from incorporation and employee stock options to cross-border investment complexity — and how these barriers slow down scaling compared to the US.
• The political and regulatory challenges of building such a framework, including the tension between national sovereignty and the need for deeper integration to foster innovation.
• The role of capital markets in Europe, and why fragmentation in listing rules, taxation and supervision makes it harder to create true European champions.
• The broader competitiveness question: how Europe positions itself between the US and China in technology, capital formation and regulatory agility.
• The realistic path forward — what can be implemented pragmatically, what requires political courage, and why timing matters in the current geopolitical and economic context.

A thoughtful and strategic conversation about Europe’s future as a startup continent — not just in terms of funding rounds, but in terms of structural design.

Robin’s recommendation:

• Podcast “Stuff you should know”: https://stuffyoushouldknow.com/

Useful links:

Robin Wauters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinwauters/

EU-Inc: https://www.eu-inc.org

Sirris: http://www.sirris.be

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Finscale is much more than a podcast.

It’s an ecosystem that connects key players in the financial sector through networking, coaching, and strategic partnerships.

📢 With Finscale Private Talks, I bring together investors, entrepreneurs, and institutions for high-value private exchanges – I have zero tolerance for bullshit.

🎯 Through my coaching and advisory support, leaders and finance professionals can better structure their vision and accelerate their impact.

🤝 As for partnerships, they create unique opportunities to position yourself at the very heart of the industry’s transformation.

🔗 Discover all the initiatives on the Finscale website : https://finscale.business

Enjoy listening!

Produced by Gokyo Sàrl-S, hosted by Audiomeans©. Visit the Privacy Policy of Finscale and Audiomeans for more information.