Building something that lasts requires patience, relationships, and a deep commitment to serving others first.
In this episode of Finding the Upside, I sit down with Ivan Misner, founder and Chief Visionary Officer of BNI, the world’s largest business networking organization. Often called the father of modern networking, Ivan shares how BNI grew from a simple need for referrals into a global organization grounded in the philosophy of Givers Gain.
We talk about what leadership really looks like when it’s done well, mobilizing and inspiring people rather than managing through control. Ivan and I explore why consistency beats chasing bright, shiny objects, how long-term relationships drive real business growth, and why networking, leadership, and success itself are all marathons, not sprints.
Our conversation also moves into disruption and AI, and why leaders must learn to adapt without losing sight of the human side of business. Ivan shares insights from decades of global leadership, philanthropy, and teaching, reinforcing the idea that technology can support growth but people, values, and behavior ultimately determine impact.
This episode is a reminder that meaningful success is built slowly, intentionally, and in alignment with who you are and how you choose to lead.
Here’s a quick look at what you can expect from today’s episode…
[1:31] How BNI Began
[3:07] Why Service-First Business Actually Works
[7:31] Leadership Is About Mobilizing and Inspiring, Not Managing
[11:02] The Third Paradigm: Moving from Productivity to Co-Creation
[13:04] Lead the Disruption or Be Disrupted
[24:01] Networking Is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
[28:37] Why Consistency Beats Bright Shiny Objects
Episode Show Notes
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