In this episode, Emma sits down with Figen Murray OBE - multi-award-winning motivational speaker, psychotherapist and campaigner - whose life changed forever when she lost her son Martyn in the Manchester Arena terror attack.

With no background in politics, security or lobbying, Figen set out to close a critical gap in UK law: the absence of legal requirements for basic security in public venues. What she believed would be a six-month campaign became a seven-year journey through five prime ministers, government departments and a global pandemic - including a 200-mile, 16-day protest walk to Downing Street. That journey led to the Terrorism (Protection of Premises) Act 2025 receiving Royal Assent, now widely known as Martyn's Law.

In this conversation, Figen speaks candidly about campaigning as "Martyn's mum," the personal cost of public life, the online abuse she faced, and why she made the decision - just three and a half weeks after Martyn's death - to publicly forgive his killer. She also shares who Martyn really was: his humour, his love of Coronation Street, and the memorials she's created in his memory. Along the way, she reflects on grief, resilience, and what still needs to happen before Martyn's Law is fully implemented.

Content Warning: This episode includes first-hand accounts of a terrorist attack, bereavement and grief. Listener discretion is strongly advised - please prioritise your wellbeing and pause or come back when you're ready.