“Don’t be afraid to fail because if you’re going to fail, fail big.”

In this family-first, full-circle conversation, Kevin and Jamie sit down with Shane McClintick—Kevin’s son and Jamie’s brother—to talk about resilience, growth, and the unexpected path that led him from college detours and restaurant shifts to leading a national engineering firm.

Shane opens up about learning discipline through failure, rediscovering purpose in leadership, and what it’s really like working alongside his dad. From early lessons at Florida State to raising kids of his own, this episode reminds us that the road to success isn’t straight—it’s built one step, one setback, and one comeback at a time.

What you’ll learn in this episode: → How setbacks can shape leadership and resilience → Why accountability and consistency create long-term success → The lessons that come from family, faith, and failure

It’s an honest, funny, and deeply human look at what happens when family, hard work, and personal growth intersect. Whether you’re building a business or simply trying to build a better version of yourself, this episode will hit home.

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Episode Chapters 00:00 welcome + Shane’s long-awaited appearance 04:00 college beginnings and dorm life at Florida State 15:00 lessons from academic struggle and finding purpose 25:00 returning home and discovering a new direction 35:00 lessons from restaurant work and leadership 47:00 joining the family business at AWSI 01:05:00 working with your dad and growing a company 01:20:00 family values, accountability, and consistency 01:35:00 closing reflections on failure, success, and gratitude

Topics we explore in this episode include: resilience and leadership, family legacy in business, learning through failure, personal growth and accountability, mentorship and father-son dynamics, building structure and purpose, redefining success