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  • Episode 002 — Fly, Fame, and Finding Your Lane with Mark McGrath
    2026/04/30
    Description: A conversation with Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray — from a producer telling him he couldn't sing right before recording the song that would go number one in 18 countries, to hosting Extra, to what keeps him showing up every night with genuine gratitude for a career built on serendipity and surrender. Host: Skip Martin Summary: Mark McGrath has sold 10 million records, hosted Extra, and fronted one of the most recognisable bands of the 90s. In this backstage conversation at the Chelsea Theater in the Cosmopolitan, Las Vegas, he tells the unfiltered story of how Sugar Ray almost didn't happen, why a producer's backhanded compliment saved his career, and what Al Pacino said to him on a red carpet that made him question everything. A conversation about truth, tone, surrender, and why doing what you love is the only retirement plan worth having. Main Topics: How Sugar Ray got signed to Atlantic Records in 1994 and nearly didn't survive their first album The good news/bad news moment before recording Fly — and why Mark surrendered everything to his producer How Fly went number one in 18 countries and sold two million copies The accidental pivot to television — how a meeting turned into hosting Extra Al Pacino on the red carpet and the moment that made Mark recalibrate Why truth hurts — but always leads somewhere better What Skip's mom said about education that stopped everyone in their tracks Why they both agree: they get paid to travel. The shows are free. Intriguing Quotes: "The bad news is you can't sing. The good news is, if you stay in your lane, you have a tone that I think we can sell two million copies with." "At that point I got on my knees and said — tell me what to do." "You're better than that." — Al Pacino to Mark McGrath "I'll die playing Fly three times a night at Denny's in Barstow if I have to." "The measure of an educated man is the places he's been." — Skip Martin's mom Key Moments: [03:35] The studio moment that defined Sugar Ray's career — producer David Kahn tells Mark he can't sing, then tells him exactly how to use what he's got. Mark surrenders completely. Fly goes number one in 18 countries. [07:30] How Mark ended up hosting Extra — he thought he was going to a meeting. Two weeks later he was on air. He stayed from 2004 to 2008. [09:15] Al Pacino walks a red carpet, Mark asks him about Kevin and Brittany. Pacino says "you're better than that" and walks away. Mark never forgot it. [13:30] Skip's mom reframes education — 45-50 countries, more times around the world than he can count. "Some people know a lot about things in their books. You know more about things in the world." Notable Resources: Sugar Ray: www.sugarray.com Mark McGrath's 120 — SiriusXM 90s on 9 Recorded at: Chelsea Theater, The Cosmopolitan, Las Vegas Connect with Mark McGrath: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealmarkmcgrath/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/mark_mcgrath TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therealmarkmcgrath Connect with Skip Martin: Website: https://www.skipmartinmusic.com/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/skipmartinmusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/skipmartinmusic/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/skipmartinmusic YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/skipmartinmusic Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • Episode 001 — Janice Marie Johnson
    2026/04/27
    She was told black people didn't want to hear Japanese music. She recorded it anyway. And it changed her life. ________________________________________ WHO YOU'RE ABOUT TO MEET Janice Marie Johnson is my sister. We go way back — two artists who came up doing the real work, playing real stages, in front of real people who showed up and gave everything back. Janice is a co-founder of Taste of Honey, the group that gave us Boogie Oogie Oogie — one of the most joyful, undeniable songs in the history of R&B — and a woman who plays bass, writes, sings, dances, and has been doing all of it at the highest level for decades. I wanted the world to know her story because the story behind the songs is just as powerful as the songs themselves. This one is personal. And that's exactly why you need to listen. ________________________________________ THE CONVERSATION This episode starts at a show — live, in the room, Janice still glowing from the stage — and that energy never leaves. We talk about a record company executive who told her she couldn't record a Japanese song, a broken heart that quietly became an entire album, and the night Boogie Oogie Oogie was born at an air base in California with a hand on her hip and a crowd that couldn't stop staring. Janice doesn't just tell you what happened. She sings it to you. And if you're listening, you'll feel every word. ________________________________________ MOMENTS YOU WON'T FORGET "I Forbid You to Record It" The head of Capitol Records told Janice that black people didn't want to hear Japanese music and that she was not allowed to record the song. What she said back — and what she did next — is exactly what courage looks like in this industry. The Secret Behind the Whole Album Sukiyaki was about a broken heart. But it wasn't just one song. Janice reveals that Sukiyaki, Rescue Me, I'm Talking About You, Don't You Leave Me, and Goodbye Baby — the whole Twice as Sweet LP — were all written about the same man. What Sukiyaki Actually Means The original Japanese title is Ue O Muite Aruko — not Sukiyaki. Sukiyaki is a food. Janice asked three people to translate the real title and all three said the same thing: I'm looking up to keep my tears from falling down. What each person said about WHY is where it gets beautiful. The Night Boogie Oogie Oogie Was Born Janice and Hazel were onstage at an air base and the crowd was just staring. She put her hand on her hip and started talking to them. That first verse — spoken, not sung — was recorded that same night on a reel-to-reel recorder. The whole thing came out in a moment, the way the best ones always do. ________________________________________ WHAT JANICE SAID ABOUT MUSIC Skip didn't ask the signature question in this episode — the conversation was too alive, too in-the-moment to stop for it. But Janice answered it anyway, without being asked. "Being sad really helps with the writing. Being happy is great too, but it's easy to write when you're brokenhearted. It comes right to your mouth." That's music, right there. Pain turned into something the whole world can sing. ________________________________________ WORDS WORTH KEEPING "You can not put it on the record if you want, but I'm going to record what I want to." — Janice Marie Johnson "It's easy to write when you're broken hearted. It comes right to your mouth." — Janice Marie Johnson "They're all about the same guy. Thank him — he made you, Janice." — Skip Martin "Great songs usually come up very fast and we record them quickly." — Janice Marie Johnson "I'm looking up to keep my tears from falling down." — The meaning behind Ue O Muite Aruko (Sukiyaki) ________________________________________ CONNECT WITH JANICE Facebook: Taste of Honey / Janice Marie Johnson 1 Website: tastinhoney.net ________________________________________ CONNECT WITH SKIP Website: https://www.skipmartinmusic.com/ ________________________________________ ABOUT FRIENDS AND LEGENDS Grammy Award winner and music industry icon Ski Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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    19 分