FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: humanity - someone being in love with you at work - being ignored as a junior at work - asking questions.

Recorded on the 23d of November 2025, at BAM Brooklyn, Next Wave Festival, New York City.

(01:20) Zack Glassman [°1993 - Suffolk, New York]: "You are bringing music to humanity here. In this world today, I wonder: do I have to prove my humanity? Nobody needs to prove their humanity. I wish we can all experience this moment for what it is, this afternoon. Because we are all here together. "

(06:04) Helena de Groot [°1983 - Belgium]: "I have been in love with you from the moment I saw you. And actually, it is because of me that you got hired... I thought I had been hired for me."

(11:30) Keileigh [°2001 - Tennessee]: "What is the best way to phrase this... I am younger in the creative field. I look up to my elders in arts administration, I admire them, I want to be like them. But then, they don't even say 'hi' to you when you are ushering."

(15:37) Preeti [°1973 - India]: "My mother didn't get to have a career. But she has one now, in art. Her medium is what comes from domestic work, which she was made to do when she was young. I also took her for granted as a servant. She had so much more to say, that I was missing. It didn't end there."

(21:04) What do you deserve? A powerful life - to take up space - dignity - to be able to do it all.

"All comments were spot on. That's what we deserve."

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

This episode was co-produced by Qubit Music and supported by the Dutch Embassy in New York

Leadership support for theater at BAM provided by The Shubert Foundation, Inc. and The SHS Foundation

Leadership support for Next Wave 2025 provided by National Endowment for the Arts

Support for theater at BAM provided by The Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation and Laura Pels International Foundation for Theater

Additional support for theater at BAM provided by The Francena T. Harrison Foundation Trust and David L. Klein, Jr. Foundation

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: assimmilation - infantilisation - helping a younger brother - the future of feminism - to express myself.

Recorded on the 21st of November 2025, at BAM Brooklyn, Next Wave Festival, New York City.

(01:25) Dorotea [°1970 - Ocean of Lingayen, Philippines]: “The teacher accused me of not doing my homework myself. How can an immigrant girl know how to type? I quit highschool. I assimmilated to the story he had of me."

(07:10) Clara [°1994 - Stanford, Connecticut, USA]: “I am infantilized often. It kind of made me bitter over time. But there is a Haitian proverb: 'you will meet the man, or you'll meet your maker.'"

(11:53) Danre Adekunle [°Ibadan, Nigeria]: “I am an eldest immigrant daughter, my parents defer decision making to me. My brother is soaring right now. I flew down to Atlanta each month to make sure he is in a good place, 24 flights in 12 months."

(15:32) Anne [°1989 - Brazil]: "My mother didn't get to have a career. But she has one now, in art. Her medium is what comes from domestic work, which she was made to do when she was young. I also took her for granted as a servant. She had so much more to say, that I was missing. It didn't end there."

(20:10) Greta [°2009 - New York City]: "I am in a feminism club at my school. I have been trying to ignore a lot of stuff, push it away. Being a young woman, feeling I have the future of feminism on my back... people don't realise how hard it is. What am I going to do with my future? How am I going to make this right?"

(27:00) What do you deserve? A chain of 10 answers, with a gender shift in the middle after "for one single man to come up here and tell us what they deserve." Ending with: 'I deserve to express myself.'"

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

This episode was co-produced by Qubit Music and supported by the Dutch Embassy in New York

Leadership support for theater at BAM provided by The Shubert Foundation, Inc. and The SHS Foundation

Leadership support for Next Wave 2025 provided by National Endowment for the Arts

Support for theater at BAM provided by The Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation and Laura Pels International Foundation for Theater

Additional support for theater at BAM provided by The Francena T. Harrison Foundation Trust and David L. Klein, Jr. Foundation

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: responsibility to show I am not here - working only with lesbians - being the oldest Asian daughter - being part of art - deserving all the good things.

Recorded on the 20th of November 2025, at BAM Brooklyn, Next Wave Festival, New York City.

(01:25) Jeane Andrews [°1952 - Wisconsin, USA]: “It was the first woman to get hired by a major oil company in the 70s. They didn't want to hire me, president Nixon had just signed an affirmative action act, every company had to hire one woman. We all got fired."

(12:40) Raven [°2007 - Rumford, Maine, USA]: “When I was a kid I used to feel excluded a lot within my family. They liked my brother more, the things he liked more. I was just someone who was there sometimes."

(16:26) Kalliope [°2006 - Iowa, USA]: “I was dating a guy who ended up being my manager. I got in trouble for getting my breaks at the same time as his. There is this balance of when saying 'no' or 'yes' is bad, growing up as a woman. When can I say 'no' or 'yes' and what is going to get me through this world?"

(19:45) Sarah [°1988 - Michigan, USA]: "It's easy to say in your twenties 'I don't want kids'. But as you see the biological opportunity really running out, you realise: 'I don't have a roadmap.'" I can't afford children, and I work in theater. I was babysitting children of an actress, and the husband was really resentful. Like he was paying for her hobby."

(27:00) What do you deserve? And a chain of 21 answers.

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

This episode was co-produced by Qubit Music and supported by the Dutch Embassy in New York

Leadership support for theater at BAM provided by The Shubert Foundation, Inc. and The SHS Foundation

Leadership support for Next Wave 2025 provided by National Endowment for the Arts

Support for theater at BAM provided by The Gladys Krieble Delmas Foundation and Laura Pels International Foundation for Theater

Additional support for theater at BAM provided by The Francena T. Harrison Foundation Trust and David L. Klein, Jr. Foundation

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.