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FINE is a 4-Letter Word

FINE is a 4-Letter Word

著者： Lori Saitz
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"Fine" is a lie leaders tell themselves — and it costs them their people, their culture, and their impact. Every episode, a leader gets honest about what it really takes to lead with empathy, vulnerability, gratitude, and courage… especially when everything isn’t fine. We're sharing how human connection drives innovation, retention, profitability and ultimately, legacy. I trust something in this conversation will stay with you. One thing’s for sure… you’ll never hear—or say—the word “fine” in the same way again.Copyright 2026 Lori Saitz 個人的成功 心理学 心理学・心の健康 経済学 自己啓発 衛生・健康的な生活
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  • 243: Wrong Tape, Wrong Story with Henry Tolbert

    243: Wrong Tape, Wrong Story with Henry Tolbert
    2026/08/27
    Henry Tolbert was sitting at a fire pit behind a rental house, grilling hot dogs for his wife and four daughters because the insurance money for their flooded home was running out, when he finally said out loud what he had been avoiding for months: this isn't fine.A few years earlier, Henry had been leading a small church that grew from 40 people to nearly 200, and had been named bishop over 65 churches. Then, without warning, discord broke out with the leader who had brought him in, and he was forced to resign from everything at once. In that same season, an unidentified animal chewed through the water lines in the walls of his home, flooding the first floor and displacing his family for six weeks. He had no job, no income, and what he calls a broken sense of purpose.On this episode of FINE is a 4-Letter Word, Henry tells Lori Saitz the full arc: a high school football career derailed by one injury after another, a scholarship earned in just five games, an NFL tryout built on the wrong game tape, a Bible study intervention that redirected him into ministry, and the fire pit moment that gave him permission to stop building other people's dreams and finally build his own.What You'll Take AwayWhy a childhood dream pursued through repeated injury taught Henry more than an NFL career would haveHow losing his ministry role and his home in the same season forced an honest reckoning he had been avoiding for yearsWhy judging his life by lead goals, the inputs he controls, instead of lag goals, the outcomes he doesn't, changed how he shows up every dayWhat shifted when Henry stopped chasing clients and started inviting people insteadHow admitting he wasn't fine gave him permission to finally build something of his ownGuest BioHenry Tolbert spent years answering “How are you?” with “I'm fine” while quietly running on fumes, leading a church, building a business, and pretending he had it all together. Spoiler: he didn't. Now he's the Founder of Simple Systems Consulting, author of The Comeback Plan, and a recovering “I'm fine” addict who helps pastors and entrepreneurs stop white-knuckling their way through leadership and start building systems that actually let them breathe. He's also an Associate Pastor, podcast co-host, husband, dad of four, and a man who once grilled hot dogs over a fire pit in his backyard because life had completely fallen apart, and decided that was the last time he'd pretend everything was fine when it wasn't.Chapters & Key Timestamps00:00Opening and introductions — the Henry connection and generational names01:33The values that shaped him: faith and football in Birmingham, Alabama05:07A high school career derailed by injury after injury07:07Five games, one scholarship, and a record-setting career at Grambling State07:47What NFL scouts never saw: the tape from his best season08:47His grandmother's plea to walk away — and why he couldn't11:07The Bible study intervention that redirected him toward ministry13:47“There's a light around you” — the moment that sealed it14:47Becoming a bishop over 65 churches, then losing it overnight15:47The critters, the flooded house, and six weeks displaced with four daughters17:47The fire pit moment: admitting he wasn't fine21:07Why people of faith are so good at sweeping things under the rug25:47Lead goals vs. lag goals: judging life by inputs, not outcomes27:47The coaching advice that changed everything: invite, don't chase29:47Why the people who found him became his best clients31:47Building an audience by just showing up, even when only his wife was watching34:07In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins: Henry's walk-up song35:07Where to find Henry: getchurchsystems.com and mybusinesssystems.comResources MentionedBook: The Comeback Plan by Henry TolbertFree Resource: Get Church Systems — getchurchsystems.com (for ministry and church leaders)Free Resource: My Business Systems — mybusinesssystems.com (for business owners and entrepreneurs)Resource: The Mandate Method — themandatemethod.comSong: In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins — open.spotify.com/track/7Dbg5O9nNWu6SWxDjJ9qoqConnect With Henry TolbertCompany: Simple Systems ConsultingWebsite: getchurchsystems.comWebsite: mybusinesssystems.comWebsite: themandatemethod.comBook: The Comeback PlanLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/henry-tolbert-005a3943Facebook: facebook.com/htolbertInstagram: instagram.com/henry_tolbertContinue With LoriWebsite: zenrabbit.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorisaitz/Email: Lori@ZenRabbit.comInvitation From LoriThis episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Trust is the foundation of all great workplaces, and in today's hybrid, fast-moving work culture, it's built through consistent, clear, human communication.Quarterly town halls, Slack messages, or team-building events are rarely enough to create the connection employees need. That's why forward-thinking companies are hiring Lori to create internal and private podcasts that bring leaders and employees together...
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  • 242: A Toddler Saved His Life with Jim Morris

    242: A Toddler Saved His Life with Jim Morris
    2026/08/20
    Content Note: This episode includes a brief, non-graphic reference to a personal crisis involving suicidal thoughts.Jim Morris grew up believing giving was the whole equation. His father taught him to give the shirt off his back to anyone who needed it, and it showed up everywhere in his childhood, right down to the night his father pulled a stranger from a burning car outside their home.What Jim didn't learn for a long time was how to receive. It took a high-stakes business risk, a $240,000 self-funded conference that lost $112,000, and a moment of real personal crisis for him to finally ask for help directly.On this episode of FINE is a 4-Letter Word, Jim tells Lori Saitz about the Triple H method for actually supporting the people you love, and about four words from his two-year-old daughter that pulled him back from the lowest point of his life.What You'll Take AwayWhy guessing what someone needs, help, being heard, or a hug, is one of the most common ways people let each other downHow a single moment of connection can ripple outward in ways you'll never see or know aboutWhy anticipating the worst contractually protects relationships and business deals alikeThe Five Alive exercise: what's already sitting, untapped, in your last five text conversationsWhy Jim now treats a $112,000 loss as an investment, not a failureGuest BioJim Morris is a keynote speaker who helps organizations scale revenue and create deep belonging by centering their culture on integrity, connection, and intentional growth. He is the author of Connect or Die: How to Survive AI and serves as the CEO of Human Touch Publishing.Chapters & Key Timestamps03:00The night a car crashed outside his childhood home05:00His father pulling a stranger from a burning car, and the police officer's warning07:00The question that reframes everything: how are you at receiving?09:00The moment everything was on the line and he finally had to ask for help11:30The Triple H method: help, heard, or hugged, and why guessing wrong fails people17:47A period of profound personal crisis, interrupted by four words from his daughter26:30The confidant, ally, acquaintance bullseye exercise, and how to build it32:00The Five Alive exercise: what's already sitting in your text messages34:00The $240,000 conference, the sales team that walked out, and losing $112,00035:30The sign on the highway that said exactly what he needed to hear37:30Reframing failure as an investment, not a lossResources MentionedBook: Connect or Die: How to Survive AI by Jim Morris — a.co/d/00BVmyGxSong: Spinnin by Connor Price — youtu.be/UekfKh59KOwConnect With Jim MorrisCompany: Human Touch PublishingWebsite: realjimmorris.comBook: Connect or Die: How to Survive AI — a.co/d/00BVmyGxLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/realjimmorrisFacebook: facebook.com/therealjimmorrisInstagram: instagram.com/realjimmorrisContinue With LoriWebsite: zenrabbit.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorisaitz/Email: Lori@ZenRabbit.comInvitation From LoriThis episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Trust is the foundation of all great workplaces, and in today's hybrid, fast-moving work culture, it's built through consistent, clear, human communication.Quarterly town halls, Slack messages, or team-building events are rarely enough to create the connection employees need. That's why forward-thinking companies are hiring Lori to create internal and private podcasts that bring leaders and employees together through authentic stories and real conversations.Think of it as the old-school company newsletter reinvented for the modern workplace.If your company wants to strengthen communication, connection, community, and culture, connect with Lori at Lori@ZenRabbit.com or on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorisaitz/Related ConversationEpisode 240: Amanda Van Der Heiden — on resilience, boundaries, and what it costs to keep giving without receiving.About FINE is a 4-Letter WordFINE is a 4-Letter Word is the show for leaders who are tired of pretending everything is fine. We explore what it takes to lead with empathy, vulnerability, gratitude, and courage, especially during the seasons when life and leadership feel anything but fine. Listen for honest conversations about how human connection influences innovation, retention, leadership, and real impact. New episodes every week.Follow FINE is a 4-Letter WordFollow or subscribe so you never miss an episode. If this conversation gave you something useful to think about, leave a review. Reviews help more people discover the show and join the conversation.
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  • 241: The Surprising Path to Happiness with Suneet Bhatt

    241: The Surprising Path to Happiness with Suneet Bhatt
    2026/08/13
    Suneet Bhatt spent 12 years in private equity and venture-backed businesses, and every job followed the same arc: new and exciting at first, then, faster each time, something felt off, and he went looking for the next one. He never noticed he was the common denominator.It took his wife, after his last business exit, to name what he couldn't see in himself: his happiness at work was getting shorter each time, his exits were getting more acrimonious, and he needed to stop and figure out what actually mattered to him.On this episode of FINE is a 4-Letter Word, Suneet talks with Lori Saitz about what came after that conversation — the executive coaching practice, the Rutgers class that doesn't mention the word purpose until session 15, and the research-backed exercise he uses to counter the brain's built-in negativity bias.What You'll Take AwayWhy purpose has to start with reflection, not predictionThe three consistent through-lines across every popular definition of purpose: personal, forward-looking, bigger than youThe 18-minute exercise, happy, proud, not yet satisfied, and why the order mattersWhat the research on self-forgiveness and procrastination actually showsWhy 'stuck' is not one problem, and each version of it needs a different responseGuest BioSuneet Bhatt has spent more than 25 years helping people gain clarity about who they are and what they want, then move toward it with purpose. He coaches founders and leaders, works with teams as an EOS Implementer, and has guided people from boardrooms to classrooms. He is the author of Making Sense of Purpose, out August 25, 2026 from Morgan James, built on one premise: before you can make sense of your purpose, you have to make sense of yourself.Chapters & Key Timestamps01:33Values from an immigrant household: be helpful, above everything else07:14The corporate route: Fortune 500, an MBA at Duke, then 12 years in private equity08:30Why he never noticed he was the common denominator08:58His wife's intervention after the last exit12:03Why 'finding your purpose' feels like waiting for an Amazon package13:43Personal, forward-looking, bigger than you: the three common threads in every definition of purpose14:12The Rutgers bait-and-switch: purpose doesn't come up until class 1516:07Why you should never build your purpose on a single point of failure like joy18:16Happy, proud, not yet satisfied: the 18-minute exercise, explained start to finish22:06Negativity bias: why we respond more strongly to negative stimuli than positive23:48Plateaus, not stuck: reframing what it means to feel stuck25:09Self-forgiveness research: the procrastination study and what it provesResources MentionedBook: Making Sense of Purpose by Suneet Bhatt (Morgan James, August 25, 2026) — available for pre-orderResource: book soundtrack, one song per chapter, on Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon MusicResource: Purpose Radar Library — a free, rated map of books, podcasts, and films about purposeSong: Da Rockwilder by Method Man and Redman — youtube.com/watch?v=WCYy8jpp7R8Connect With Suneet BhattWebsite: makingsenseofpurpose.comBook: Making Sense of Purpose (Morgan James, out August 25, 2026)LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/suneetbhattInstagram: @suneetonpurposeContinue With LoriWebsite: zenrabbit.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorisaitz/Email: Lori@ZenRabbit.comInvitation From LoriThis episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Trust is the foundation of all great workplaces, and in today's hybrid, fast-moving work culture, it's built through consistent, clear, human communication.Quarterly town halls, Slack messages, or team-building events are rarely enough to create the connection employees need. That's why forward-thinking companies are hiring Lori to create internal and private podcasts that bring leaders and employees together through authentic stories and real conversations.Think of it as the old-school company newsletter reinvented for the modern workplace.If your company wants to strengthen communication, connection, community, and culture, connect with Lori at Lori@ZenRabbit.com or on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorisaitz/Related ConversationEpisode 238: Scott Doggett — on purpose, burnout, and what it takes to stop and ask the bigger question.Research & SourcesSuneet cites research showing humans respond 2 to 5 times more strongly to negative stimuli than positive. This aligns with well-established negativity bias research, including Roy Baumeister's 'bad is stronger than good' review, Kahneman and Tversky's work on loss aversion (roughly a 2:1 ratio), and Cacioppo's neural response studies showing measurably stronger brain activation to negative stimuli. The exact ratio varies by study and context, but the underlying finding is well replicated.About FINE is a 4-Letter WordFINE is a 4-Letter Word is the show for leaders who are tired of pretending everything is fine. We explore what it takes to lead with empathy, vulnerability, gratitude, and courage, especially ...
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