On this episode of the Police K9 Training Podcast host Jeff Meyer sits down with Danny Ziem from Echelon Front to unpack leadership dynamics inside small, specialized units — especially K9 teams. Danny, a full‑time instructor with Echelon Front, explains how Extreme Ownership principles apply to K‑9 units, special operations, and first responders at every level.

Topics covered include the common challenge of supervisors who treat K9 programs as an extra duty, how handlers can “lead up the chain” to build influence and secure resources, and practical ways to detach from emotions, get curious, and present capabilities in a way that helps command. Jeff and Danny explore how small teams can avoid swapped priorities (team over mission), how to make your unit indispensable to the larger organization, and how humility and perspective drive better outcomes.

The conversation also addresses handling internal friction: identifying why a teammate is disgruntled, using curiosity to de‑escalate conflict, empowering experienced members, and the value of honest, inclusive debriefs that collect lessons learned from every position.

To Read Danny Ziem's Bio or to contact him, check out: https://echelonfront.com/instructors/danny-ziem/

To contact Jeff Meyer, email him at: JeffMeyer1@outlook.com

To see more about Jeff and the classes that are offered go to: www.Policek9Training.net

Thanks to this shows sponsors:

AceK9.com

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Ray Allen K9 https://www.rayallen.com/

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The Next Level K9 https://www.thenextlevelk9.com/

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For information about the Colorado K9 Conference https://coloradok9conference.com/