Meet James L McCormick II and his son James McCormick III—two Army veterans showing that service doesn't end when the uniform comes off. A retired Captain and current Executive Director of Government Affairs at Vietnam Veterans of America, James Sr. leads at the national level. His son volunteers locally in West Virginia, building community from the ground up. What does it look like when two generations serve their country in completely different ways?

This conversation gets personal fast. James Sr. shares how watching his own sons deploy transformed his commitment to supporting veterans when they come home. He and Jimmy also dig into something America needs to hear right now: how families and veterans can disagree politically without tearing each other apart. In a moment when political differences are destroying relationships, these two offer a quiet, powerful reminder that you can vote differently and still love your family. Still respect your fellow Americans. Still serve civilly.

This one's about the shape of continued service. About choosing to show up locally when nobody's watching. And about the veterans and military families willing to model the kind of disagreement that doesn't require hate.

Listen to hear how James and Jimmy are building civic life one conversation at a time.

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