• Kate and Rachel dive into the Dr Allison Daminger interview to discuss how you can really share the cognitive labor. Listen now to hear our tips on how to

  1. Define your own balance.

  2. Rewrite norms takes parental leave for all AND revised norms.

  3. Discover what motivates both of you to change your family script?

  4. Schedule a regular check-in.

  5. Be aware of ALL social barriers.

• Want more language on the difference between cognitive labor, emotional labor, and the mental load? Check out this article by Kate.

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  Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

The household divide is greater than we think it is. It’s so much more than the physical tasks - it’s all the thinking and feeling work that goes along with the physical work. And that is why we feel it so deeply; we have an emotional reaction to household labor because household tasks are far more than cooking and cleaning.

Kate and Rachel are joined this week by Dr. Allison Daminger, an assistant professor of sociology at UW-Madison and the author of the new book What's on Her Mind: The Mental Workload of Family Life. Her research focuses on how and why gender shapes family dynamics, particularly the division of work and power in couples.

In this conversation, Kate & Rachel ask Allison all about cognitive labor (a term, by the way, that SHE defined) particularly in the context of parenting and household responsibilities. This interview was perfectly timed, as Allison herself is a new mom and, with her partner, is working to put theory into practice.

Get your copy of What’s On Her Mind: https://www.allisondaminger.com/book

Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. And for a short while, you can also be part of building Equal-ish! Our crowdfunding campaign is live now! We have some great rewards for all levels of engagement, and multiple ways for you to get involved. Please help us grow Equal-ish and get this out to the thousands of parents that could benefit. Support today: https://www.ifundwomen.com/projects/equal-ish-podcast
Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

In this coaching edit, Kate and Rachel break down key themes from their interview with Marvyn.

Marvyn Harrison is the founder of Dope Black Dads, a globally recognised platform exploring fatherhood, masculinity and mental health and is shaping conversation around Black fatherhood and redefining modern masculinity.

1. The work starts with you… and continues with others

2. We need to acknowledge that society makes parenting hard for men

3. Focus on who you are NOW - not the PAST You

4. What are the economics of Equal Partnership

5. Is it boundaries or balance that you need?

6. To be a great parent, you need to be a PALS first. Listen to find out exactly what that means

Dad groups are new-ish! If you’re looking for one to join (or be inspired about starting your own) check out these existing groups:

• Dope Black Dads

• All Parents Welcome

• Andy’s Man Club

• Dad Matters

• The Company of Dads

• Brooklyn Stoller Club

• Dad Guild

Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.