What does meaningful technology use actually look like in real classrooms—and what gets lost when the response to screen time is simply to remove the screens?

In Episode 83, Steve and Sophie sit down with educational technology and instructional resource specialist Tina Nunez of Albuquerque Public Schools. Drawing on more than 21 years in education, Tina shares how an unexpected path from hospitality to teaching led to classroom innovation, district-wide professional learning, and a deep commitment to practical, student-centered technology.

Together, they unpack the growing “techlash” in education, the difference between passive screen time and purposeful learning, and why strong pedagogy—not the presence or absence of a device—should guide instructional decisions. They also explore universal design for learning, accessibility, AI, teacher confidence, and the digital-proficiency skills students need to become capable creators rather than passive consumers.

This honest, energetic conversation cuts through the EdTech noise to ask a better question: What tools, skills, and learning experiences will help real students and educators thrive tomorrow?

Want to learn from Tina? Here are the links:

• Innovators UnscriptED Podcast
• technicallytina.com
• X/Twitter
• YouTube
• LinkedIn
• Pinterest