Buckle up, we've got two Ex Mormon midlife women sharing how they went from everything matters to NOTHING matters!

Marcella is joined by her friend and partner-in-chaos Ashlyn (@this.isashlyn) to talk about something they've both been sitting with for a while: the idea that nothing matters — and why that belief might actually be the most grounding, most freeing, most feeling thing either of them has ever encountered.

As two women who grew up in the Mormon church, they were wired from the beginning to believe that everything mattered — eternally. Every decision carried cosmic weight. Fast forward to now, and a few meaningful experiences with psychedelics have completely rewired how they move through the world.

This episode is equal parts hilarious and profound. They talk about the moments that cracked them open, why "nothing matters" doesn't mean you stop caring or stop feeling — it actually means the opposite — and what it looks like to live a life where you're not performing for an outcome, you're just actually here.

If you've ever felt the relief of letting something go that was never really yours to carry, this one's for you.

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Ashlyn is the host of THIS IS ASHLYN podcast, and hosts midlife awakening retreats! Go follow her, she will light up your life♥