Between the two of them, Deborah and Sophie have a lot of diagnoses. Sophie suggests a new tagline: two generations, zero filter, all the mental illnesses. This episode covers the topic they're asked about most: mental health across generations. Sophie talks about being diagnosed with OCD in seventh grade. Deborah explains how watching Sophie get help made her realize, in her forties, that she could get help too. They talk about why Gen X grew up afraid of mental illness and why being believed matters so much. They also cover how to support someone whose experience you don't share and who you should actually talk to when you're struggling. Plus: Not Yet Sponsored returns with Carvel ice cream cake and Bombas.

In this episode:

• How Sophie's diagnosis led Deborah to get help for herself
• Stigma, shame, and why Gen X learned about mental illness from Silence of the Lambs
• Why being believed and taken seriously makes all the difference
• Naming your feelings neutrally, without judgment
• You don't have to understand someone's experience to listen to it
• Who to trust with your mental health: two criteria from NAMI
• How celebrities talking openly about mental health helps people feel less alone
• A person with anxiety, not an anxious person
• Why parents need to care more about their kid getting help than about being the one who gives it

Mentioned in this episode:

• Don't Tell Me to Relax!: One Teen's Journey to Survive Anxiety (and How You Can Too) by Sophie Riegel (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947480464)
• Overcoming Overthinking: 36 Ways to Tame Anxiety for Work, School, and Life by Sophie Riegel and Deborah Grayson Riegel (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947480820)
• Go to Help: 31 Strategies to Offer, Ask for, and Accept Help by Sophie Riegel and Deborah Grayson Riegel (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NX48GZ2)
• NAMI, the National Alliance on Mental Illness (https://www.nami.org/)

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Website: https://deborahgraysonriegel.com/

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