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What would it take to build a healthcare system where physicians and patients can actually thrive?

In this episode of Medical Money Matters, Jill Arena sits down with Dr. Gabe Charbonneau, a rural family physician, technology entrepreneur, nationally recognized advocate for physician well-being, and co-founder of Medicine Forward, a grassroots organization focused on protecting and strengthening the patient-physician relationship. https://medicineforward.org/

Gabe is also the creator of the #FightBurnout movement and FightBurnout.org. His work has taken him from rural family medicine to healthcare technology, including co-founding the EHR automation company Fluent Systems, teaching physicians better EHR workflows, and advising organizations working with AI and medical documentation.

Jill and Gabe also serve together on the board of Orchid Health, an innovative rural health organization in Oregon.

Physician burnout is often framed as a problem of individual resilience: exercise more, meditate, develop better coping skills.

But what happens when the environment itself is the problem?

Jill and Gabe explore a different way of thinking about physician well-being—one that examines the systems, incentives, technology, leadership, and culture surrounding physicians.

Their conversation centers on a fundamental question: How do we create conditions in which physicians can do excellent work, patients can receive excellent care, and medical practices can remain sustainable?

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