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What does discernment have to do with the body? In this conversation, Deb Gregory and spiritual director Becky Eldredge explore the affective and holistic wisdom of Ignatian spirituality — a tradition where the whole person prays, listens, and discerns.

Becky describes how interior movements show up not just in our thoughts but in our emotions, our breath, our posture, and the subtle shifts in energy that surface when we face a decision. Ignatian discernment invites us to pay attention to these movements as real spiritual data: signs of what draws us toward God and what pulls us away.

Favorite lines:

We throw hope around like confetti.

Hope has a name, and his name is Jesus.

Following this thread, Deb and Becky take a deep look at hope as a theological virtue — a God‑given orientation of the heart and a trusted fruit of the Spirit in discernment. Hope isn’t optimism or positivity; it’s the interior movement that buoys us, widens our perspective, and helps us recognize where God is drawing us forward.

Themes

Embodied Discernment — how the body participates in prayer and decision‑making

Interior Movements — noticing emotional, cognitive, and somatic shifts

Ignatian Spirituality — whole‑person wisdom for everyday life

Cura Personalis — care for the whole person in spiritual direction

Consolation & Desolation — affective markers that guide discernment

Hope as a Theological Virtue — more than optimism; a God‑given orientation of the heart

Affective Discernment — reading the signals of breath, posture, and energy

Spiritual Accompaniment — the ministry of noticing what moves within

Resources

Becky’s Books:

Encounter Grace: Moments of Hope, Joy, and Peace

The Inner Chapel: Embracing the Promises of God

Busy Lives & Restless Souls: How Prayer Can Help You Find the Missing Peace in Your Life

Deb’s Book:

Spiritual Wayfinding: 33 Walking Meditations for Navigating Life with Embodied Wisdom

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Follow Becky

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/beldredge98

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beldredge98/

My website: http://beckyeldredge.com

Ignatian Ministries- the non-profit Becky founded: https://ignatianministries.org/

Where to Find Deb

Flourish Spiritual Direction

Substack

IG or Facebook

Media Used in this Episode:

Palms Down by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue)

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Music by Viacheslav Starostin from Pixabay

Closing Music: ⁠Roots by Ryvoli⁠