Ep 123 | Somewhere along the way, you learned who to be. Maybe you were the shy kid, or the one Grandma blamed whenever something went missing. Penny Chiasson found hypnosis as a nurse anesthetist looking for better ways to manage her patients' pain. Now she helps people see how those early labels sink into the subconscious mind, and how to rewrite them.

In this conversation, Jen and Penny talk about how identity takes shape in childhood, from the fear you pick up watching Mom react to a spider to the praise you chase to feel safe and loved. Penny explains why trauma doesn't have to be big to shape a whole life, and how hypnosis can help you rewrite the old stories running in the background. She also shares why a chaotic home can keep the brain stuck in survival mode long after you've moved out.

If you still feel on edge in a calm home, that unease may be part of the same invisible wall you keep running into everywhere else. Give this one a listen.

🕒 In this episode:
4:30 – From nurse anesthetist to hypnotist: the pain management research that started it all
14:00 – Penny's own breaking point with high-functioning anxiety and depression
19:30 – How the subconscious mind builds your identity before age seven
28:30 – Why trauma doesn't have to be big to shape a life
34:18 – Why identity is only the halfway point, and how to avoid building yourself a new cage
35:50 – How a chaotic home and too much clutter keep the brain in survival mode
45:15– "Addicted to chaos": why we repeat old patterns
50:30 – Breaking the Fibro Code and Penny's take on chronic illness and chronic stress

The stories you picked up as a kid can be rewritten, and a home that feels safe gives that work room to stick.

Meet Penny Chiasson:
Penny Chiasson spent 25 years in healthcare, including 15 as a nurse anesthetist, before walking away to help people create lasting change at the subconscious level. She's a board-certified hypnotist and the #1 international bestselling author of Breaking the Fibro Code. She also created The Identity Matrix™ and founded Elite Hypno Pro™, where she trains practitioners to rewire the subconscious and create change that sticks. On The Soul Fusion Podcast, she has the real talk most people avoid, about identity and becoming who you are underneath who you learned to be.

🌿 Resources:
Penny's website: https://pennychiasson.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/penny.chiasson
Facebook: https://facebook.com/penny.chiasson.7

🌐 Episode Website: https://jenhellerlifestyle.com/2026/10/20/hypnosis-your-subconscious-rewiring-who-you-learned-to-be/

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