Welcome to After Careful Consideration, the show about looking for work, losing work, and trying to figure out what the hell is happening at work.

Hosts Brandon Pivot and Chase Severance kick things off with decades of experience, multiple layoffs, and a healthy distrust of “a quick meeting with HR.” They share stories of abrupt exits, marathon job searches, and final-round interviews that went nowhere, while unpacking the emotional toll of starting over.

Along the way: corporate jargon that deserves retirement, AI as a corporate cost-cutting explanation, the limits of employer loyalty, and why it’s worth asking for more when negotiating severance. In the first “Per Our Last Email” news segment, they discuss reported workforce cuts at HubSpot and Flock Safety and the gap between company messaging and employee experience.

If you’ve ever been told to “circle back” while your career was being turned upside down, you’re in the right place.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and episode overview

1:59 Corporate jargon that irritates employees
6:00 Personal layoff stories and job market cycles
11:31 AI, automation, and layoffs
19:25 Negotiating severance and exit strategies
28:56 The emotional toll of job loss and community support
38:44 HubSpot and Flock Safety layoffs
48:25 Practical tips for severance and handling layoffs
58:13 The future of work and what comes next
01:07:56 Closing thoughts and community engagement

Follow the show and connect with Chase and Brandon:

• Website: aftercarefulconsideration.co
• LinkedIn: After Careful Consideration Podcast
• Instagram: @aftercarefulconsiderationpod
• TikTok: @pivotandseverance
• Threads: @aftercarefulconsiderationpod

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