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Endurance State of Mind

Endurance State of Mind

著者: Anthony Herrington & Zach Vogt
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Endurance State of Mind is your go-to podcast for all things endurance—from the long miles to the mental grind. Hosted by Zach Vogt and Anthony Herrington, two everyday athletes with an obsession for pushing limits, this show dives into the training, mindset, and lifestyle of endurance sports. Each episode brings candid conversations, local race highlights (especially in Mississippi), interviews with inspiring guests, and plenty of laughs along the way. Whether you’re chasing a PR or just trying to survive your next long run, this podcast will keep you motivated, informed, and connected to the endurance community.

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  • Episode 69: Sub 6 in the Swamp: A Big Butts 50K Post Mortem, Josh Kerr's Mile Record, and Tour de France Week 2
    2026/07/21
    Just the two hosts this week, back behind the mics fresh off Big Butts 50K in the Mississippi summer, with a heat index that touched 106 and a story arc that included a two hour personal best, a survival mode second half, and a whole lot to unpack.We open with the reality of racing an ultra when the sun peaks at 97, the humidity turns the course into a sauna, and the heat advisories keep rolling in. Anthony walks through his day lap by lap. How he set expectations without telling anyone, how he executed nutrition to a T after learning from Mississippi 50, how he lost his entire bottle of carbs and electrolytes in the first half mile of lap four, and how he still hunted down a sub 6 hour finish by sprinting the last two miles at a 190 heart rate with 10 minutes to spare. Two hour PR. Mission accomplished.Zach walks through his own race, including how the humidity hit like a light switch at the start of lap three, how his ice bandana strategy stopped working, and how his core body temperature stayed elevated so long that he registered a low grade fever seven hours after crossing the line. Real talk about what it takes to just get to the finish line in these conditions, and why the Big Butts 100K finish rate this year was four out of seventeen.We give major shoutouts to David Slowick for a podium finish at the 100K, the Delot family, Ward, Jamie, Lacey Saul, and Michael Yarbrough for showing up in that oven. And we talk through Anthony's three bucket framework that made this his best race in years: execution discipline, sleep hygiene, and nutrition.Then we pivot to one of the coolest sporting moments of the year. Josh Kerr broke the mile world record over the weekend. 3:42, taking down Hicham El Guerrouj's 27 year old record. Kerr called his shot months in advance under a project he named Two Two Two (222 seconds to break 3:43). He documented the entire vulnerable journey publicly, showed his prep workouts, and delivered on the biggest stage. We dig into what made it special beyond the number: the courage to call your shot in front of the world, the discipline of showing up every day, and the Steve Magness quote that stopped us both in our tracks. "On the starting line, trying harder is the enemy. You spend years grabbing control, then in the moment that matters most, the skill is letting go of it."Then we head to France for a Tour de France week 2 that flipped the entire race on its head.Tadej Pogačar answered every question people had about whether the field could keep him close. He went from being down 8 minutes on Jonas Vingegaard early to putting up an 11 minute swing on a single stage, opening a lead that already feels insurmountable with a week to go. Then Jonas crashed on stage 14 and broke his collarbone, ending his tour. And a controversy exploded around the anti doping officials waking Jonas at 2 AM and Tadej at 5 AM to test them between two of the most demanding mountain stages of the tour, with the cycling community raising real questions about how that was handled.We break down what a wide open podium fight for second and third looks like now. Remco Evenepoel, Isaac Del Toro, Paul Seixas, Tom Pidcock, Florian Lipowitz, and the mess at Red Bull Bora Hansgrohe with two team leaders who clearly do not want to work together. Plus a great Lance Armstrong quote from The Move about Tade being fully aware of the yellow jersey count he could be chasing.And of course we wrap the tour segment with the running Watch Update from the peloton. Pogačar wore his $989,000 Richard Mille. Matthew van der Poel showed up with a $300,000 Richard Mille and a Rolex Daytona. Jasper Philipsen sported a $60,000 AP. Quinn Simmons in a Tudor Black Bay flying the American flag. And Ben O'Connor in a Cartier Santos.We close with a huge shoutout to Sierra Morris, host of the Shattered Runner Podcast, who absolutely shattered her goals at the Vermont 100 this weekend after publicly documenting her mental and physical training. Both Anthony and Zach will be appearing on her show soon.If you love endurance sports, PR stories, world records, cycling drama, or just watching normal people do genuinely hard things in horrible conditions, this one is for you.EPISODE TIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome. Fresh off Big Butts 50K. 01:05 Heat index of 106 in Jackson, Mississippi. The AAR from weather.com. 02:00 Only 4 of 17 finished the Big Butts 100K. 04:45 Anthony's expectations coming into year two of Big Butts. 06:00 Nailing nutrition and heart rate management. 07:30 Lap one and two overconfidence. 08:00 The two hour PR and sub 6 finish. 09:20 Losing the bottle of carbs and electrolytes at the start of lap four. 12:15 The sprint to the finish at 190 heart rate. 15:00 Zach's survival lap and the humidity light switch. 17:30 Ice bandanas, core body temperature, and a post race low grade fever. 20:00 Shoutout to David Slowick and the 100K podium. 22:30 Anthony's three bucket framework: execution discipline, sleep hygiene, nutrition....
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  • Episode 68: If It Scares the Hell Out of You, Do It: Epic Bill Bradley
    2026/07/14
    Every now and then you come across an athlete whose story forces you to rethink what endurance is really about. Not because of how many races they have won, but because of how many times they have been willing to start over. That is exactly who Epic Bill Bradley is.This week on Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with one of the most respected and recognizable figures in the ultra endurance world. Bill has swum the English Channel. He has finished the Badwater 135 in Death Valley in 57 hours cramping so hard he had to sit in a cold bath through the night. He has biked across America. He has climbed Denali. He has crossed the Grand Canyon rim to rim seven times. He is a nine time Ironman finisher. He has raced the Ultraman in Hawaii against Olympians. And he has become one of the most iconic figures at the legendary Arrowhead 135.But if you ask Bill, that is not what his legacy is built on. His legacy is built on the fact that he keeps showing up. After his marriages ended. After his 10 million dollar video store empire fell to Netflix. After more DNFs than most athletes would ever be willing to talk about. After the depression. After the bankruptcy. Bill made persistence his identity.In this conversation, Bill takes us through the entire journey.He starts with getting cut from every ball sport in the ninth grade, running out of the basketball locker room crying, and watching a teammate quietly practice all summer and make the baseball team while everyone else quit for good. That was the moment he decided he was never going to quit anything again in his life.He walks us through the drinking years as a young union electrician, opening 13 video stores with a stack of credit cards after every bank in San Francisco turned him down, growing that chain into a 10 million dollar empire that beat Blockbuster head to head, and then watching Netflix quietly wipe it all out. He talks about filing for bankruptcy, being told by his second wife "this is not what I signed up for," his dad calling every night to do what Bill would later find out were suicide checks, and how running was the only tool that would let him think straight for an hour a day.He talks about the Tony Robbins seminar at 30 that started his exit from drinking, walking on coals as a metaphor for attacking his fears, and finally quitting for good and going to AA.Then we get into the racing. His first Ironman DNF in Canada at 105 degrees. Coming back the next year to finish. Nine Ironmans and one Canada tattoo on his left calf. Sneaking his way into the Ultraman in Hawaii. Making the decision to swim the English Channel on the spot after realizing a channel swimmer had only beat him by five minutes in an Ultraman ocean swim. Qualifying with a six hour cold water swim inside of six months. Finishing Badwater 135. Biking across America in the Race Across America at 18 hours a day on the seat for 16 straight days, wearing four pairs of bike shorts by the end.We get into Denali. Five attempts. Getting stuck in an eight day blizzard at the 10,000 foot camp. His mountain guide roasting him for peeing outside the tent during a blizzard. Getting so sick he had to descend with a Russian tent mate who had boot bang while Bill kept falling weak, both of them chained together on the rope like a chain gang.And then rock climbing Half Dome via the snake dike route to attack his fear of heights. Skydiving. Illegal after hours bungee jumping off a bridge. And the incredible moment his lead climber told him "if you fall on this granite slab, I am going to pancake you and we are going to grind down together until we stop."We finish with the one piece of advice Bill gives every young athlete or entrepreneur who tells him they want to do something big. Do not sit in the bike shop cutting the ends off your gear shifters trying to make things perfect. Get in the arena. Start. Stumble. Learn. Come back. Then you can stand tall and look people in the eye. That is the entire game.Bill is featured in six documentaries. His two most well known are Epic Bill (available on Amazon and Apple TV) and Forty Below, which follows his journey at the Arrowhead 135 in International Falls. Watch them. Then come back and listen to this conversation.If you have ever been cut, laughed at, broken, bankrupt, or told what you were chasing was impossible, this is your episode.EPISODE TIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome. Introducing Epic Bill Bradley. 02:36 If a little is good, a lot has to be better. The origin of an extreme mindset. 03:05 Fifth in the county in 7th grade. Cut from every ball sport by 9th grade. 04:39 Running out of the basketball locker room crying. 05:43 The teammate who practiced all summer while everybody else quit. 07:00 Never quitting anything ever again. 07:31 The four mile Tahoe run that ended with a bus ride back to the hotel. 08:20 Union electrician years. Marriage, three kids, and heavy drinking. 10:00 Opening the video store with 15 credit cards after every bank said no....
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  • Episode 67: From Spartan Race Bonk to a 50-Mile Course Record: How Data-Driven Training Built an Endurance Athlete - Clint Pagan
    2026/07/07
    In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, hosts Anthony Herrington and Zach Vogt sit down with Clint Pagan, founder of Full Armor Fitness and the newly-minted first-overall finisher and course record holder at the Night Howler 50 Mile in Hoover, Alabama. Clint's story is a masterclass in how curiosity, community, and a growing obsession with personalized data can turn a casual runner into a competitive ultramarathoner. If you've ever wondered whether VO2 max testing, resting metabolic rate testing, lactate threshold testing, or heart rate zone training are worth your time and money, this conversation lays out exactly what those tools can (and can't) do for your training.Clint's endurance journey didn't start on a track or a trail. It started with GORUCK challenges and obstacle course races like Spartan Race and Tough Mudder back around 2011, when he and his wife were living in Atlanta. After bonking hard at a Spartan race in 2016, Clint made a simple decision: drop the obstacles and focus purely on running. A corporate wellness perk covering local 5K and 10K entries (Mobile, Alabama's "Corporate Cup" series) gave him the on-ramp, and a top-10 finish at his very first local 5K hooked him for good. From there, Clint describes a progression many endurance athletes will recognize: 5Ks turned into a hunt for a sub-20-minute 5K, which turned into training for the Mobile Marathon, which turned into chasing a Boston Marathon qualifying time.That road wasn't smooth. Clint ran his first marathon, the Mobile Marathon in 2019, with an undiagnosed stress fracture in his foot, gutting out a 3:22 finish before learning at the finish line just how injured he actually was. COVID derailed his 2020 season, and he lost significant fitness and volume during that stretch. But 2021 became a turning point: Clint got intentional about training, started watching heart rate data on every run, and used the brutal, windswept 2022 Mississippi Gulf Coast Marathon (13-15 mph headwinds for 26.2 miles) to run a 2:58 and lock in his Boston qualifying time, the same race where his path first crossed with Zach's.The data obsession really took hold once Boston training began. Clint talks candidly about the misinformation loop that trips up self-coached runners, forums insisting you need 60-80 mile weeks to break three hours, when he found success on 40-45 peak miles per week by training smarter, not just harder. That meant learning what heart rate zone training actually was, cutting "gray zone" junk miles, and building the aerobic base that lets you hold pace instead of falling apart at mile 20. He crossed the Boston finish line in 2:59 and, by his own account, felt like he'd barely touched the tank, the moment that pushed him to chase his VO2 max number and eventually launch Full Armor Fitness, his own mobile lab-testing business.A significant chunk of this conversation is a deep, practical breakdown of the physiological testing tools available to serious endurance athletes today, explained by someone with a real medical background, Clint's degree is in emergency medicine, and he spent years as a paramedic and EMT in both Mississippi and Atlanta before shifting into endurance coaching and testing. Topics covered include:VO2 Max Testing: What it measures (how efficiently your body takes in and uses oxygen), why it's the gold standard for cardiorespiratory fitness, and why an individualized lab test beats algorithm-based estimates from a five-kilometer race time or a wearable device. Clint explains how his team uses clinical-grade VO2 Master equipment, the same category used to test elite athletes, to map precise heart rate training zones (zone one through five) instead of relying on generic age-based formulas.Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR) and Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): The difference between the two, how they're commonly estimated using BMI-based formulas, and why a lab-measured number is far more accurate for athletes managing a caloric deficit or surplus during a training block. Clint breaks down how being off by just a few hundred calories a day can mean gaining two to three pounds despite heavy training volume, and how lean muscle mass directly impacts metabolism over time.Body Composition Analysis: How InBody-style scanning (roughly a one to two percent margin of deviation) tracks fat mass, water weight, and other biometric markers, pairing with VO2 max and RMR testing to build what Clint calls a full "physiological profile."Lipid Panel and Biometric Markers: Why tracking cholesterol and glucose matters, particularly for older or masters-level endurance athletes training hard while watching long-term cardiovascular health.Lactate Threshold Testing: Clint discusses where Full Armor Fitness is headed next, in-session lactate testing (the kind using an ear-prick sample) to pinpoint exactly where an athlete crosses from aerobic to anaerobic effort, sometimes called "threshold two." He and Anthony riff on pairing lactate data with ...
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