Embracing Diversity and Faith: Insights from Derwin Gray | Finding the Supernatural EP.4
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Embracing Diversity and Faith: Insights from Derwin Gray | Finding the Supernatural EP.4
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Episode four of "Finding the Super Natural in the Natural," Rusty has a conversation with Derwin Gray, former NFL player and current pastor of Transformation Church. Gray discusses valuing people despite being an introvert, the surprising launch of Transformation Church in 2010 with 701 attendees, and the church’s emphasis on ethnically diverse community, baptisms, outreach, and local service. He explains how ministry includes systems, leadership, and hard decisions, and shares that he has written nine books despite not enjoying writing, including It’s Time to Heal, which addresses rumination, trauma, identity, and integrating gospel truth with neuroscience and spiritual formation. Gray also recounts NFL experiences, including facing Barry Sanders and a memorable hit on Dan Marino, and describes the origins of the viral “Evangelism Linebacker” skit.