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Episode 146: Liz Allan and Jolene Cook, OBE - Turning Science into Global Climate Action.

Liz Allan speaks to Jolene Cook, OBE, Head of International Climate Science and UK IPCC Focal Point at the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero.

Jolene shares her journey from musical maths graduate to leading global science-policy negotiations, including the intense behind-the-scenes work that goes into the IPCC reports that inform climate policy worldwide. From 3 am calls and 20-page policy summaries to her toddler’s views on EVs, Jolene brings a rare, human insight into one of the most important jobs in climate change today.

Jolene Cook, OBE Bio:
Jolene Cook is the Head of International Climate Science at the UK’s Department for Energy Security and Net Zero. She serves as the UK’s Focal Point to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and leads negotiations on science issues within the UN climate framework. With a PhD in atmospheric sciences from the University of Reading, Jolene has built a career translating complex climate science into actionable global policy. She’s passionate about bridging the gap between evidence and action, while also being a mum, musician, and EV advocate.

Quote of the episode:
"Speak out. Don’t be the silent majority. If you care about climate change, make sure your voice is heard, because policymakers and businesses need to know the public supports action." – Jolene Cook, OBE.

Jolene Cook, OBE Links:
Website: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-energy-security-and-net-zero
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolene-cook-b3b39015
Show your stripes: https://showyourstripes.info/c/europe/unitedkingdom/all
Carbon Copy: https://carboncopy.eco/local-climate-action

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Episode 145: Liz Allan and Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah - the Fight for Clean Air in the UK.

Liz Allan is joined by internationally recognised clean air campaigner Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah for a powerful and emotional episode. After her daughter Ella died at just nine years old from a rare form of asthma, Rosamund became a leading advocate for environmental health and founded the Ella Roberta Foundation to protect others from preventable harm. In this honest and deeply inspiring conversation, Liz and Rosamund explore how invisible pollutants like nitrogen dioxide and particulate matter are impacting our health every day, and why asthma, allergies, and respiratory illness need to be taken far more seriously. Rosamund explains why clean air must be seen as a public health issue, not a political one. She shares her belief in a national awareness campaign led by trusted voices, not politicians, to help people understand the link between pollution and illnesses like asthma, cancer, and even infertility. Her call is simple but powerful: we all have a role to play in pushing for change, and Ella’s Law, legislation that enshrines the right to clean air, must be part of that.

Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah Bio:
Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah is a globally recognised environmental health advocate and the founder of the Ella Roberta Foundation. She became a leading voice in the clean air movement following the tragic death of her daughter, Ella, from severe asthma exacerbated by air pollution. Rosamund’s campaigning has led to landmark legal and public health recognition, including Ella becoming the first person in the world to have air pollution officially recorded as a cause of death. Rosamund is a passionate educator and speaker working to raise awareness of the health impacts of pollution and to push for systemic change through legislation, and public engagement.

Quote of the Episode
“We can be divided over so many other issues. But when it comes to health and the National Health Service, I want us all to be on the same page.”
— Rosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah

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Episode 144: Liz Allan and Ben Marks - Consumer Insights and the Road to Decarbonisation.

Liz Allan speaks with Ben Marks, Managing Director of Electrify Research, to uncover why understanding homeowner behaviour is key to scaling up the transition to low-carbon technologies. With a background in market research and a passion for decarbonisation, Ben shares how his company’s Home Electrification Tracker Study (HETS) is helping businesses, banks, and policymakers make smarter, data-driven decisions. Together, Liz and Ben explore the real attitudes of over 32,000 homeowners across the UK, US, Germany, and France towards solar panels, electric vehicles, heat pumps, and home battery systems, painting a detailed picture of what’s driving (and stalling) the shift to cleaner technologies. They discuss why changing the public narrative around electrification remains such a challenge, especially in the face of persistent misinformation. Ben highlights how pinpointing the right consumer segments, such as “Electrification Trailblazers” and “Pragmatic Adopters”, is essential to accelerating adoption. The conversation also delves into the core motivations and barriers people experience when considering low-carbon alternatives, and how a systems-thinking approach can create powerful synergies between technologies, enabling benefits like lower bills and smarter, more efficient energy use across the home.

Ben Marks Bio:
Ben Marks is the Managing Director of Electrify Research and the founder of the Home Electrification Tracker Study (HETS). With over two decades in market research, including founding YouthSight and leading it for 18 years, Ben now applies his expertise to the energy transition. Passionate about decarbonisation and data-led decision-making, he’s helping businesses, banks, and governments understand homeowner attitudes towards electrification technologies and accelerate the move to net zero.

Ben Marks Links:
Website: https://www.electrifyresearch.co.uk
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-marks-6818285

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Episode 143: Liz Allan and Daveena Saranna - Diversity, Equity, and the Future of EVs.

Liz Allan welcomes the inspiring and dynamic Daveena Saranna, Campaigns Manager (EV) at Green.TV Media. With a background rooted in sustainability, storytelling, and diversity, Daveena shares her unique journey from growing up in a Porsche dealership to championing equity and inclusion in the EV space.

A driving force behind the Top Women in EV campaign, Daveena speaks candidly about building community, redefining leadership, and what it means to create meaningful change across the sector. From curating impactful events to celebrating hidden voices, she discusses how Top Women in EV has become a platform for authenticity, allyship, and growth, locally and globally.

In a deeply personal and relatable conversation, Liz and Daveena also explore their experiences as neurodivergent women in the industry. They speak openly about the challenges and empowerment that come from understanding their diagnoses, and how embracing difference leads to stronger teams, richer stories, and more human workplaces.

Daveena Saranna Bio:
Daveena Saranna is Campaigns Manager (EV and Top Women in EV) at Green.TV Media, where she champions inclusion, storytelling, and strategic engagement in the EV industry. With a background in global sustainable development and previous experience at Everything Electric (formerly Fully Charged), Daveena combines academic insight with creative flair. She is a passionate advocate for equity, neurodiversity, and creating human-centred experiences that drive lasting change in the clean tech and automotive sectors.

Quote of the Episode:
“Diversity is a fact. Inclusion is a choice. And action, whether you’ve got a whole department or you're just one person doing your best, still matters.”
— Daveena Saranna

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Episode 142: Liz Allan and Kirsty Pendleton - Fleet Electrification, Customer Care, and Data Insights at the AA.

Liz Allan chats with Kirsty Pendleton, Head of B2B Marketing at the AA, about how the iconic motoring organisation is evolving to meet the challenges of an electric future.

With 25 years at the AA under her belt, Kirsty shares how the business has continually adapted, from classic roadside recovery to pioneering support for EV charge point operators. Discover how the AA’s deep-rooted values of “courtesy and care” are being channelled into new services like EV customer support lines, second-line technician response for faulty chargers, and predictive vehicle maintenance powered by AI.

Liz and Kirsty delve into the power of storytelling in marketing, the public’s lingering misconceptions about EVs, and the importance of proactive, data-driven support for drivers and fleets. Kirsty also lifts the lid on the AA’s role in initiatives like the Greenfleet rallies and their support of Guinness World Record-breaking EV journeys.

Kirsty Pendleto Bio:
Kirsty Pendleton is Head of B2B Marketing at the AA, where she has worked for an incredible 25 years. With a background in brand, education, and theatre marketing, Kirsty is a passionate advocate for customer experience, innovation, and the human side of the EV transition. She plays a key role in shaping how the AA supports drivers, fleets, and Charge Point Operators as the automotive world embraces electrification. Kirsty is also a proud EV Champion Award recipient and a regular presence at industry events like Greenfleet and Everything Electric.

Quote of the Episode:
“There’s something so reassuring about seeing that yellow AA van come over the horizon, you just know you’re in safe hands.”
— Kirsty Pendleton

Kirsty Pendleton Links:
Website: https://www.theaa.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirsty-pendleton-35818a60

The AA EV Viewpoint Report https://www.the

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Episode 141: Liz Allan and Chris Cheetham - Why Annual Safety Inspections Matter for Every EV Charging Site.

Liz Allan is joined by Chris Cheetham, Founder and CEO of Safer Charging, to explore the often-overlooked world of post-installation care in the EV charging sector. Chris shares his journey from studying environmental science to his early days at PodPoint and the pivotal moment that led him to launch Safer Charging. He explains why EV charge points, much like any safety-critical infrastructure, require ongoing inspection and maintenance, rather than a one-time install-and-forget approach.

Their conversation covers the unique risks within EV charging environments, the importance of fire risk inspections, and the launch of the UK’s first EV Charging Installation Condition Report (EVCICR). They also unpack the real-world impact of overheating units, cable degradation, and poorly managed private infrastructure. Liz and Chris highlight how local authorities, landowners, and fleet operators can better safeguard their EV assets and why public trust is eroded whenever a charger is seen bagged off or left out of service.

Quote of the Episode
"Time degrades user attention as well as hardware. We need to treat charge points like safety-critical infrastructure—not just install and forget."
— Chris Cheetham, Founder & CEO of Safer Charging

Chris Cheetham Bio:
Chris Cheetham is a passionate advocate for safer, smarter EV charging. As CEO of Safer Charging, he works with businesses, councils, and landowners to ensure charge points are correctly installed and maintained to a high standard long after. With deep sector knowledge and a practical, solutions-focused mindset, Chris aims to make safety and reliability the norm across the UK’s charging infrastructure. His work helps clients confidently and clearly navigate fire risk, compliance, and operational performance.

Chris Cheetham Links:
Website: https://www.safercharging.co.uk
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-cheetham-06185873

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Episode 140: Liz Allan and Gary Comerford - Driving Change: What Makes an Outstanding EV Charging Experience?

Liz Allan is once again joined by Gary Comerford, host of the EV Musings Podcast. Together, they take a deep dive into the world of EV charging experiences, sharing personal anecdotes, lessons learned, and small but vital improvements that could transform EV adoption.

Gary brings his six years of EV driving experience into the conversation, offering brilliant insights into how the public charging network has evolved and where it still needs to develop. From memorable moments involving misaligned GPS pins to the essential elements that make or break a charging experience, Liz and Gary cover it all with their trademark warmth, humour, and constructive spirit.

They discuss the impact of good signage, payment reliability, canopy protection, proactive fault management, and why transparency around charging speeds is critical for drivers. This episode is a must-listen for CPOs, EV drivers, and anyone passionate about making EV journeys smoother, safer, and more satisfying.

Gary Comerford Bio:
Gary Comerford hosts the EV Musings podcast, where he shares practical advice, interviews, and real-world experiences from the front lines of electric vehicle adoption. An EV driver since 2018, Gary’s passion for demystifying the EV journey shines through. With a keen eye for what makes or breaks the charging experience, he’s become a trusted voice within the EV community, advocating for improvements that benefit drivers and infrastructure providers.

Gary Comerford Links:
Website: https://evmusings.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garycomerford

Quote of the Episode:
"A lot of charge point operators think they're doing fine because they’re busy, but being used isn’t the same as being loved. True success comes from making the EV charging experience as seamless and intuitive as possible."
— Gary Comerford, EV Musings Podcast

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Episode 139: Liz Allan and Richard Hackforth-Jones - Sainsbury’s Smart Charge Vision for Net Zero and Customer Excellence.
Liz Allan speaks to Richard Hackforth-Jones, Product and Operations Director at Sainsbury’s Smart Charge, to explore how one of the UK’s biggest retail giants is revolutionising the EV charging landscape. Richard shares Smart Charge's incredible growth journey, from launching its first site in July 2023 to rapidly scaling to over 75 sites and 615 ultra-rapid charging bays in less than a year. More than just numbers, Richard dives into Sainsbury’s customer-first approach, using its retail expertise, existing property assets, and Nectar loyalty scheme to make EV charging both accessible and rewarding for drivers. He explains how their ability to use existing grid connections and relentless focus on process improvement make Smart Charge a stand-out player in the industry.

Richard Hackforth-Jones Bio:
Richard Hackforth-Jones is the Product and Operations Director at Sainsbury’s Smart Charge, leading the charge (quite literally) on scaling one of the UK’s fastest-growing EV charging networks. With a background spanning tech consultancy, product management, and e-mobility strategy, Richard brings a unique blend of technical know-how and strategic insight to the EV space. Passionate about simplifying the EV driver experience, Richard is driving Smart Charge’s mission to deliver ultra-rapid, accessible, and customer-friendly charging at Sainsbury’s nationwide, while supporting the retailer’s broader net-zero goals.

Quote of the Episode:
"We have a duty, as an industry, to make it easy to onboard those customers into this new behaviour of public charging. If we don’t, we risk leaving people behind.” Richard Hackforth-Jones, Sainsbury’s Smart Charge

Richard Hackforth-Jones Links:
Website: https://smartcharge.co.uk
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-drake-hackforth-jones

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