What does it cost to be fully visible? For the season finale, on the day HOMO ARTIS publishes, Daniel Lismore answers with his life.

Marco Palou, author of HOMO ARTIS (out today), sits down with his friend Daniel Lismore, the British artist who lives as a living sculpture: every day, an assemblage of chainmail, beads, couture, and found objects collected across decades, each one carrying a piece of his life. Daniel appears in the book. It felt right to end the season with him. This is Don't Freak Out, a podcast about being human in the future that came, where every conversation happens while making something with our hands.

They talk about what it takes to get dressed when the outfit is your life's archive, the armor that is also a magnet, what daily abuse costs and why he gets dressed anyway, why AI can generate the image of his work but never the life inside it, and creativity not as decoration but as survival.

That's season one. Thank you for being here.

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HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT TODAY.

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Produced by Shira Chait and Marco Palou

Cinematography and stills by Raul Seca Jr.

Production design by Teresa Guerrero C.

Color corrected by Shira Chait

Post production by Amarte Labs