Welcome to the Beneath the Frame podcast which explores the art and ideas behind music videos and short films.Hosted by Dr Amanda Stephenson (academic turned foster parent) and Gavin Fry (filmmaker with decades of experience), we dive deep into both how these works are made and what they mean.From identity and ideology to emotion and storytelling, we break down the visuals, sound, and techniques that bring creative ideas to life. Whether you’re an aspiring filmmaker, a curious fan, or someone who wants to understand the media that surrounds us, this podcast is your behind-the-scenes pass.In this episode we take a deep dive into Demi Lovato's explosive and cinematic music video for "Confident." Directed by Hollywood legend Robert Rodriguez, this action-packed narrative works to blend themes of empowerment, betrayal, and redemption.We examine the challenges of crafting a cohesive narrative within the constraints of a music video format, especially when handled by a director better known for feature-length films. They explore the complexities of male filmmakers telling women’s stories and analyse how the video’s perspective shapes its message of empowerment.From high energy fight scenes to moments of introspection, this episode unpacks the ambitious visuals, the interplay between storytelling and spectacle, and what "Confident" tells us about who gets to frame narratives of strength and self-assurance.Whether you’re a Demi Lovato fan or curious about the art of music video storytelling, this conversation is a must-listen!