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This podcast opens with a description of the human stages of development or Growing Up, from caveman to enlightened sage. The hosts make the point that we can have an advanced state of consciousness at any stage, such as a heart opening in a tribal stage or a non-dual glimpse in a rational stage. We will then interpret that state experience through the lens of our stage – “Jesus loves me” or “We’re all connected in quantum reality.” For this reason, it’s essential to focus on our emotional, cognitive, and moral development, along with shadow awareness – Growing Up – because it’s invisibly shaping and interpreting our reality all along the way. But it is typically devalued in religious/mystical traditions as less important than spiritual development -- Waking Up. Dr. Neil describes his own experiences of Waking Up in earlier stages of development.

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Dr. Neil describes the Witness as pure consciousness, the background that always is in all states of awareness. In the conventional waking state, we are not aware of it because we are identified with our subjectivity or with an object. When the Witness emerges, we separate and become identified with the Self or pure consciousness – I Am That – and feel free inside from identification with body, mind, feelings. This sense of freedom from subject/object, attraction/aversion is a cue that we are in the Witness. When we move into non-duality, the Witness seems to disappear at first. But it’s always already there – and reappears as we move our attention between duality and non-duality in the world.

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“The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences.”—the third Chinese patriarch of Zen.

Today Neil describes the role of preferences, likes and dislikes, love and hate after awakening. He addresses the question: How do we include the people or behaviors that we find unacceptable in the One? If we feel a great attraction or aversion to a politician, celebrity, or friend, do we need to do shadow-work post-awakening? He explains that these pairs of opposites, and their shadow material, are different in different stages of consciousness – and therefore require a different attention.