Welcome to Mindful Leader. Your host is Dennis Shaw, a retired elder in the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church, as he delves into the topic of leadership within the local church.

In this two episode conversation, Dennis talks with Dr. Lucy Hogan, Professor Emerita of Preaching and Worship at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, D.C.

Several sites with summaries of Dr. Hogan's distinguished credentials are:

• Wesley Theological Seminary
• Working Preacher
• Ministry Matters

Last week (on Podbean) is here.

Dennis and Dr. Hogan discuss the importance of community, highlighting that being prophetic is not a solitary journey but one engaged in communal fellowship, challenging status quos, and offering hope.

Through personal anecdotes and thoughtful reflection, the episode urges leaders to embrace empathy and imagination, cultivate courage, and rely on the Holy Spirit to guide their prophetic voice. Whether tackling social concerns or offering a pastoral approach to preaching, the episode encourages a new perspective on leadership that honors both individual and collective gifts in the pursuit of justice and truth.

Anamnesis and Prolepsis defined here. We play with this idea a little.

We mention in the podcast preaching professor Leonora Tisdale. Here is her Yale Divinity School information and here is the book discussed.

Transcript here and this expires March 31, 2025.

Dennis email is here

I try and weekly recommend an excellent podcast. Today, that is here. This is Bari Weiss speech to the Federalist Society receiving the Olson award. Powerful. Should you listen, ask if Weiss is speaking the truth to power. I am an admirer of Bari.

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