Someone put a chip inside the hardware wallet. Then they waited. George Bodine walks through the Ledger reseller attack, the 2020 breach Ledger said hit about 10,000 customers (the leaked database had 272,000 names and home addresses), and why he's been throwing Ledgers in the trash for years. Bob Burnett explains the part everyone gets wrong: Bitcoin didn't fail, the things you plug into it did. Larry Lepard on 1933, phishing, the deepfake phone call he's waiting for, and why he wipes his Trezor after every use.

Then Bob previews something he's been building: a way to send a transaction that the world can't see until it's already in a block.

CHAPTERS

00:00 welcome, and a toast to the one kid who listened

00:43 a maxi with bitcoin in more than one bucket

02:28 the ledger reseller story

03:43 they waited

04:32 the 2020 breach, 10,000 vs 272,000

05:35 the fendi wallet

06:33 bob: bitcoin didn't fail, the interface did

07:57 two of three, geographically dispersed

09:22 the etf question

10:41 what if the government says it's illegal

11:25 opsec vs complexity

11:45 the coldcard entropy scare

13:09 why larry still runs single sig on a trezor

13:50 phishing, deepfakes, and the call from your kid

15:53 don't keep it in the house, wipe the device

17:58 bob's pre-announcement: replace by fee as an attack

22:10 private transaction submission

23:56 what to tell the golfing buddy with a million

26:17 self custody is not as easy as driving a car

27:41 let the hate mail come in

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The Bitcoin Boomers is a panel for smart, successful people over 40 still on the outside of Bitcoin looking in. Plain English answers to the questions no one else will touch. Signal without the noise.

Your hosts:

Gary Leland, founder of BitBlockBoom

Lawrence Lepard, sound money fund manager and author of The Big Print.

Bob Burnett, mining entrepreneur and founder of Barefoot Mining.

George Bodine, the World's Most Interesting Bitcoiner.

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