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Differentiated Love and Sex

Differentiated Love and Sex

著者: Jackie Aston and Catherine Roebuck
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Differentiated Love & Sex is a relationship podcast about emotional differentiation, intimacy, and building healthier partnerships. Hosted by Jackie Aston, a licensed psychotherapist with 10+ years of experience working with individuals and couples, and Catherine Roebuck, a relationship coach who helps entrepreneurs and working professionals improve their relationships.

Each episode explores relationship dynamics, communication, sex, boundaries, and personal growth so couples can stay connected without losing themselves.

New episodes are available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.

2026 Jackie Aston and Catherine Roebuck
人間関係 社会科学 衛生・健康的な生活
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  • Why We Keep Playing Victim, Rescuer, or Perpetrator With Our Partner
    2026/07/15

    If you've ever done every dish, packed every lunch, and then found yourself furious at a partner sitting on the couch, this one will feel familiar. So will the moment right after, when the fight gets uncomfortable and someone rushes to smooth it all over before anything actually gets resolved.

    What this episode covers:

    - The drama triangle: the victim, rescuer, and perpetrator positions couples cycle through, often within a single conversation

    - A real scenario, walked through step by step, of how a couple moves from overfunctioning and resentment into blame, hurt, and a rushed peace that settles nothing

    - Why the rescuer position and the victim position can look kind or selfless on the surface while carrying their own quiet aggression

    - How this same triangle shows up in the bedroom through duty sex and hypervigilant self-monitoring during sex

    - What it actually takes to step out of each corner, including why getting out of the victim position isn't the same as just accepting bad treatment

    This is a dynamic Jackie and Catherine work through with clients and coaching clients regularly, and if any of these roles sound like your own, they offer a free 15-minute consultation to talk about what shifting out of them could look like for your relationship.

    Free consultation: https://www.differentiatedlove.com/contact

    Substack: https://differentiatedlove.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web

    Podcast: https://pod.link/1884143784?view=apps&sort=popularity

    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro

    00:34 What the drama triangle is

    02:40 The Sarah and Mark example: overfunctioning turns into blame

    08:52 How rescuing smooths things over without solving anything

    12:56 Why all three positions come from low differentiation

    16:40 Why the victim and rescuer positions can look nice on the outside

    22:09 How this plays out in sex through duty sex

    25:56 Self-monitoring and hypervigilance during sex

    28:01 How to get out of each position

    41:27 Closing thoughts

    To learn more about Jackie and Catherine's therapy and coaching services, and the work they do with individuals and couples, be sure to check out their website.

    Podcast Website

    https://www.differentiatedlove.com/

    Jackie's Website

    https://www.candgtherapy.com/

    Catherine's Website

    https://www.catherineroebuck.com/

    Music: Echoes by Roa https://soundcloud.com/roa_music1031

    License: Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0

    Free Download / Stream: https://audiolibrary.com.co/roa-music/echoes

    Music promoted by Audio Library: https://youtu.be/HCXJxHIkH8w

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  • I'm a Good Partner. So Why Does Sex Feel Like a Chore?
    2026/06/24

    If sex has started to feel like something you get through rather than something you want to experience, you're not alone — and it's not about attraction or love. For a lot of high-functioning, responsible people, pleasure has quietly been crossed off the list of things that matter. And their partners feel it.

    This episode covers:

    • How a productivity mindset migrates into the bedroom — and what it does to desire and intimacy
    • The difference between accommodating sex and actually wanting it, and why that gap matters
    • Why some people struggle to know what they want at all — in bed or anywhere else — and how to start finding out
    • What it looks like to gradually rebuild a tolerance for pleasure, outside the bedroom and in it
    • The real cost to a relationship when one partner has stopped letting themselves want things

    This is the kind of work Jackie and Catherine do with couples and individuals all the time. If you're curious what it might look like to explore this, both offer a free 15-minute consultation.

    https://www.differentiatedlove.com/

    https://www.candgtherapy.com/

    https://www.catherineroebuck.com/

    Chapter Markers00:00 – Why pleasure is a charged topic for so many people 01:19 – When what you want gets overruled by logic 03:36 – Want vs. need: why "we just ate" misses the point 04:07 – How productivity culture crowds out pleasure 05:26 – Religious and cultural messaging around wanting things for yourself 07:36 – When your value feels entirely external 08:24 – High achievers, disconnected bodies, and intimacy 09:01 – When sex becomes a checklist item 10:10 – The relational cost of depriving yourself 11:33 – Feeling alive: pleasure vs. productivity 12:28 – Slowing down and engaging the senses 14:48 – Why couples rush through sex — and what's underneath it 16:33 – Building your tolerance for pleasure outside the bedroom first 17:00 – Letting your partner see you enjoy things 18:35 – Unpacking guilt around wanting 20:23 – Duty-based sex and what it does to desire 22:44 – Knowing what you like as part of having a self 24:11 – You can't have it both ways: choosing pleasure or productivity 26:40 – Window of tolerance: expanding gradually 28:26 – Practical ways to slow down and stay present 29:32 – Multitasking as a way to avoid feeling 31:38 – Curiosity about what you actually like 33:33 – Trying things, changing your mind, and the freedom there 36:21 – When a parent's voice shows up the moment you enjoy something 38:11 – Closing thoughts

    Music: Echoes by Roa https://soundcloud.com/roa_music1031

    License: Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0

    Free Download / Stream: https://audiolibrary.com.co/roa-music/echoes

    Music promoted by Audio Library: https://youtu.be/HCXJxHIkH8w

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    39 分
  • When Good News Becomes Something You Have to Apologize For
    2026/06/16
    To learn more about Jackie and Catherine’s therapy and coaching services, and the work they do with individuals and couples, be sure to check out their website.

    https://www.candgtherapy.com/

    https://www.catherineroebuck.com/

    Description

    Most people know how to brace for bad news. But there's something quietly harder about sharing — or receiving — good news. If you've ever found yourself announcing something wonderful with a kind of apology in your voice, or you've noticed yourself go flat when someone you love tells you something great happened for them, this episode is about that.

    This episode covers:

    • Why sharing good news can feel shameful or exposing — and where that instinct comes from
    • The connection between how you relate to your own achievements and your capacity to genuinely celebrate others
    • What Brené Brown calls "foreboding joy" — the automatic pull away from positive intensity — and how it breaks contact with yourself and with the people you're close to
    • How anxiety about other people's reactions can cause you to downplay your own life, and how to interrupt that
    • What to do with jealousy when it comes up — including how to let it point you toward something useful rather than taking it somewhere destructive

    This is the kind of conversation Jackie and Catherine have with clients all the time — the smaller, more specific places where closeness breaks down. If you're curious about what it might look like to work on this, both of them offer free 15-minute consultations and would be glad to talk.

    Free consultation: [link]
    Substack: [link]
    Podcast: [link]

    Chapter Markers00:00 – When sharing good news feels like doing something wrong 01:27 – Why this is harder than it sounds 02:44 – The vulnerability of letting someone in on joy 04:19 – Pregnancy, good news, and emotionally charged topics 05:10 – Learning to manage others' reactions instead of feeling your own 06:00 – What "foreboding joy" actually is 07:10 – The Mel Robbins quote and what it points to 08:09 – How to share without anticipating punishment 09:42 – Differentiation: holding your own experience even when it's positive 11:11 – The other side: struggling to celebrate your partner 12:31 – Building capacity in small steps 15:24 – Brené Brown on joy as the most vulnerable emotion 17:08 – What to say to someone who hides good news out of guilt 18:22 – Jealousy as information, not a verdict 20:51 – Using envy to move toward what you actually want 22:13 – Closing thoughts


    Music: Echoes by Roa https://soundcloud.com/roa_music1031

    License: Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0

    Free Download / Stream: https://audiolibrary.com.co/roa-music/echoes

    Music promoted by Audio Library: https://youtu.be/HCXJxHIkH8w

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    23 分
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