Most schools have spent years working on staff wellbeing. They’ve written policies and frameworks, funded programs, and scheduled wellbeing days. And yet the workers' compensation data reports that education now sits among the worst-performing sectors in the country for psychological injury claims, alongside healthcare and first responders.

In this episode, I sit down with Jason van Schie, organisational psychologist and founder of FlourishDx, to unpack why. Jason has worked in psychosocial risk management since 2007, in his words “before it became cool,” and he is one of the clearest voices in the country on what it takes to create work that is genuinely good for people - for staff’s wellbeing and efficacy, and the greater good of the school community.

Together, we name the shift schools are being asked to make from an ad-hoc wellbeing model (yoga, free coffee, the occasional wellbeing day) to a systems lens that looks at the design and conditions of the work itself. We dig into why prevention has to come before the wellbeing layer, why broad consultation and leader commitment are the heartbeat of the process, and why you cannot manage psychosocial risk without measuring it.

If you have ever run a staff survey and watched nothing change, or rolled out a wellbeing program that landed flat, this conversation explains what was missing and what to do instead.

Guest Resources

• Flourish DX Academy ISO 45003 Foundations Course: https://www.45003.org/enroll/1423388
• Psych Health and Safety Podcast: https://www.psychhealthandsafety.com/
• PHSCON — Psych Health and Safety Conference: 8-9 September 2026, Hyatt Regency Sydney https://psychhealthandsafetyconference.com/

Connect with Jason van Schie

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonvanschie/

Website: https://flourishdx.com

Connect with me via:

Website: https://adriennehornby.com.au

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/

School Partnerships: https://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/