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The public often sees cybercrime through the lens of attacks, arrests and headlines. Far less visible are the online communities that sit behind them.

For many people, cybercrime isn’t just about the money. These communities offer status, identity and belonging, making it difficult for people to walk away once they’re inside.

In this episode, host Gary Ruddell and former INTERPOL Director of Cybercrime Craig Jones sit down with Marcus Hutchins. Best known for helping stop WannaCry, Marcus shares a side of his story that is rarely told: a firsthand account of the online communities that draw people into cybercrime, the social forces that keep them there, and the challenges of finding a way out. Together, they pull back the curtain on the hacking underground and explore how one of its former members found a path to the front lines of cyber defense.

By understanding who these actors are and how they operate, you can better anticipate threats and protect yourself in an increasingly hostile digital world.

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