In Part 1.3 of Married Philosophers Discuss Confessions, Abigail L. Rosenthal and Jerry L. Martin continue their conversation on Part One of Confessions of a Young Philosopher.

After her innocence has been taken through seduction and manipulation, Abigail confronts a more difficult truth: beneath the violation, there may also have been something like love. Looking back on her first romantic relationship, she reflects on the authority of intuition, the pity that can arise from love, and the desire to repair an experience that cannot be undone.

Jerry and Abigail examine the mixture of manipulation and romantic idealization that shaped the relationship, including the young man’s vision of Abigail as Dante’s Beatrice and an embodiment of the eternal feminine. Yet the episode moves beyond the question of whether he loved her. It asks what happens when first love, injury, innocence, and philosophical longing become impossible to separate.

At the riverbank, believing herself ruined and without a future, Abigail considers whether her life has ended along with her innocence. Philosophy offers another possibility: to continue the argument, live through the unanswered questions, and pursue the unfinished love of wisdom.

The conversation ultimately turns toward a question Abigail would later ask two women considering suicide: What did you originally want before disappointment made life seem hopeless?

After innocence, what remains is not a simple answer, but the unfinished work of understanding love, injury, and the life one had originally hoped to live.

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Dr. Abigail L. Rosenthal is a distinguished philosopher, educator and author of Confessions of a Young Philosopher, (following the tradition of Augustine and Rousseau, but from a woman’s perspective, with illustrations) and of A Good Look At Evil, Pulitzer-nominated.

Through her platform, Dear Abbie: The Non-Advice Column, Abigail engages her audience with thought-provoking blogs and podcasts, discussing among other things the fascinating intricacies of women’s lives and shedding light on contemporary experience. Her philosophical and other articles span a wide range of topics which can be found in academia. She is also the editor of The Consolations of Philosophy: Hobbes’s Secret; Spinoza’s Way by Henry M. Rosenthal, her late father.

In Part 1.2 of Married Philosophers Discuss Confessions, Abigail L. Rosenthal and Jerry L. Martin continue their conversation on Part One of Confessions of a Young Philosopher.

In Paris, a café conversation between two young philosophy students turns suddenly from politics to love. What begins as argument and intellectual sparring becomes Abigail’s first romantic encounter, forcing her to confront not only desire, but innocence, vulnerability, and the meaning of a woman’s body in the eyes of another.

Jerry and Abigail explore the unsettling philosophical backdrop of the scene: a world shaped by Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Darwin, Freud, and Marx, where innocence can no longer easily be defended. Abigail reflects on erotic validation, existential terror, the loss of a hoped-for future, and what she calls “the rights of inhibition” — the possibility that hesitation and restraint may protect something real.

Join the discussion and explore a life lived philosophically.

Get the book, Confessions of a Young Philosopher: https://a.co/d/1ypibqo

Explore more about Confessions of a Young Philosopher.

Dr. Abigail L. Rosenthal is a distinguished philosopher, educator and author of Confessions of a Young Philosopher, (following the tradition of Augustine and Rousseau, but from a woman’s perspective, with illustrations) and of A Good Look At Evil, Pulitzer-nominated.

Through her platform, Dear Abbie: The Non-Advice Column, Abigail engages her audience with thought-provoking blogs and podcasts, discussing among other things the fascinating intricacies of women’s lives and shedding light on contemporary experience. Her philosophical and other articles span a wide range of topics which can be found in academia. She is also the editor of The Consolations of Philosophy: Hobbes’s Secret; Spinoza’s Way by Henry M. Rosenthal, her late father.

What does it mean to be desired—and what happens if you are not?

In Part One of Confessions of a Young Philosopher, Abigail L. Rosenthal arrives in Paris on a Fulbright fellowship and encounters a culture that seems to make space for romantic love in a way that 1950s America did not. Along the Seine, in the cafés, and throughout the Latin Quarter, she observes a world shaped by different assumptions about love, desire, and the place of romance in human life.

In this episode of Married Philosophers Discuss Confessions, Abigail and Jerry L. Martin explore the influence of the medieval love story Tristan and Iseult, the French understanding of romantic passion, and a question that haunted many young women of Abigail's generation: Is being desired part of what it means to become a fully realized woman?

Their conversation examines the tension between intellectual ambition and romantic longing, the relationship between feminine identity and fulfillment, and the challenge of pursuing high ideals while remaining honest about the realities of love and desire. Drawing on Jewish history, philosophy, and personal experience, Abigail reflects on why she resisted what she saw as "Plan B" answers to life's deepest questions and why truth, for her, had to be sought in lived experience rather than abstraction.

Part memoir, part philosophical conversation, and part cultural history, this chapter introduces one of the central themes of Confessions of a Young Philosopher: how to reconcile the search for meaning with the realities of love, desire, and human vulnerability.

Join us as we continue Abigail's journey through Paris, philosophy, romance, and the questions that would shape the rest of her life.

Join the discussion and explore a life lived philosophically.

Get the book, Confessions of a Young Philosopher: https://a.co/d/1ypibqo

Explore more about Confessions of a Young Philosopher.

Dr. Abigail L. Rosenthal is a distinguished philosopher, educator and author of Confessions of a Young Philosopher, (following the tradition of Augustine and Rousseau, but from a woman’s perspective, with illustrations) and of A Good Look At Evil, Pulitzer-nominated.

Through her platform, Dear Abbie: The Non-Advice Column, Abigail engages her audience with thought-provoking blogs and podcasts, discussing among other things the fascinating intricacies of women’s lives and shedding light on contemporary experience. Her philosophical and other articles span a wide range of topics which can be found in academia. She is also the editor of The Consolations of Philosophy: Hobbes’s Secret; Spinoza’s Way by Henry M. Rosenthal, her late father.