Phil and Tyler sit down with longtime executive pastor, author, coach, and leadership mentor Dan Reiland. Dan reflects on his ministry journey, beginning as John Maxwell’s second intern and eventually becoming one of the pioneering executive pastors in the modern church movement. He shares stories from his years at Skyline Church, the Enjoy ministry, and his 25-year tenure at 12Stone Church.

The conversation explores how the executive pastor role has evolved over the decades, the challenges and opportunities of church growth, and the importance of balancing organizational leadership with spiritual leadership. Dan offers a behind-the-scenes look at 12Stone’s decision to launch five campuses in a single Sunday, including lessons learned from rapid growth and the importance of strong systems.

Dan also discusses the calling and partnership between senior pastors and executive pastors, recounting the remarkable story of how God led him and Kevin Myers into ministry together. The conversation turns to leadership development, mentoring, generational learning, and the growing challenge of helping leaders interpret culture in a rapidly changing world.

Dan’s strongest leadership conviction after four decades in ministry is:prayer is not preparation for the work—it is the work.

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• 📕Shoulder to Shoulder: Strengthening the Church by Supporting Your Pastor by Dan Reiland
• 📕Amplified Leadership: Five Practices to Establish Influence, Build People, and Impact Others by Dan Reiland
• ⛪️12Stone Church
• ⛪️ Skyline Church

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CHAPTERS

03:50 – From John Maxwell’s Intern to Executive Pastor

08:26 – How the Executive Pastor Role Has Evolved

12:02 – Launching Five Campuses in One Sunday

19:00 – Supporting and Strengthening Senior Pastors

21:00 – God’s Calling to Partner with Kevin Myers

27:16 – Mentoring Leaders and Interpreting Culture

31:00 – Addressing Anxiety in Today’s Generation

32:05 – Prayer as the Foundation of Church Growth

35:03 – Developing One More Leader

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