This is DANCE + DANIEL “CLOUD” CAMPOS

Most people find one creative medium and stay. Cloud Campos found dance — then learned stop-motion, animation, PLUS directing because he refused to let a story outrun his tools. He joined me this week to talk about premiering unreleased work at CLOUDFEST, real budgets, and the dog slide that had an entire room convinced it was rotoscoped.

Spoiler: it wasn't. It was muscle memory.

We explore:

• The festival Cloud built himself and WHY

• Why freestyle dance is the perfect training for stop-motion + why every filmmaker SHOULD learn stop-motion

• Emotionally, mentally, + physically what it costs to create Cloud’s worlds

This one's for the makers who hide their fingerprints in the details, hoping someone will find them.

Watch the full episode here.

Show Notes:

Connect with Cloud on IG

Watch “Macho Man”

Watch “Into The Cosmos”

Watch “Hey”

Watch “Todays The Day”

Read “Figure It Out!”

Try out “Magic Poser”

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This is DANCE + REBRANDING.

This episode is a masterclass in when and HOW to pivot using our very own podcast as the case study. I'm telling you why, why NOW, and HOW I moved from “Words That Move Me” to DANCE +

Here’s what you can expect from our pivot:

Same great content, new name, logo, iconography, and then some!

Spoiler: Rebrands are as much MIND MANAGEMENT as they are BRAND MANAGEMENT. Pivots aren’t just about new directions; they are an exercise in negotiating where you put your weight. They're a conversation with self (inward) and a statement of self (outward) that can expose a TON of unwanted feelings.

Get ready for all the juicy details:

• The moment I KNEW beyond a doubt that I needed to change the name of the podcast.
• How Toni Basil influenced the new title.
• Why I decided to SHIFT, not STOP.

271 episodes in. We're just getting (re)started.

Watch the full episode on YouTube.

Show Notes:

Hire Bree Reetz for your Brand Design!

Listen to DANCE + Will Loftis

Listen to DANCE + Toni Basil

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Bret Easterling has spent his entire life (even pre-birth!) dancing, and his entire career building worlds on stage, on screen, and inside the communities that make dance possible. A producer, Juilliard-trained and award winning choreographer, former Batsheva performer, founder of LGBTQ+ nonprofit BEMOVING, and one half of the creative duo EICHTERLING, Bret joined me this week to talk about what it actually takes to make a dance film, why the logistics always threaten to swallow the artistry, and what happens when you let something be easy.

We explore:

• Bret’s new film “True Love Will Find You in the End”. WATCH IT HERE

• The Clown Car Theory of a creative process

• What gets cut and why, finding the ending no one planned, and what that says about following ease.

• Teaching as space-making: Why Bret is never really in the business of telling people what to do, and how the most important thing a teacher can do is make someone feel capable of discovering something new.

This episode is for anyone who's ever let logistics push the love of the work to the back seat, and those who need a reminder that the Joy of Dance is always there, waiting.

Watch the full episode here.

Show Notes:

Connect with Bret on IG

Watch “True Love Will Find You In the End”

For more DANA

For coaching with me, join the WTMM COMMUNITY

To donate to WTMM through our Fiscal Sponsor, THE DANCE RESOURCE CENTER

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