We’re back at the Cloisters (in NYC) in this episode! Prof. Gabriele is joined by Joanne Pillsbury and Julia Perratorre to talk about the exhibition “Creatures of Myth and Imagination” that compares monstrous(?) hybrids from Europe and the Americas.

Guests

Julia Perratore is Associate Curator, Department of Medieval Art and The Cloisters, where she specializes in the art of southern Europe. Many of her recent projects have explored medieval people's relationships to the natural world. See more at https://www.metmuseum.org/departments/medieval-art-and-the-cloisters/team

Joanne Pillsbury, Andrall E. Pearson Curator at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, is the author, editor, or co-editor of numerous books and articles on the subject of ancient American art, specifically the Andean region. In 2025, she was recognized with the Order of Merit for Distinguished Service (Grade of Commendator) by the Republic of Peru. See more at https://www.metmuseum.org/fr/departments/ancient-american-art/team

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