Tim sits down with Jeff Deyo, former lead singer of Sonic Flood, for a conversation about what it really means to worship. Jeff unpacks worship as more than music. It's a response to revelation, that moment when truth about God moves from something you understand in your head to something the Holy Spirit makes real in your heart. They talk about how even prayer and Bible reading can become checklist items instead of relationship, and how music became the missing strand that tied Jeff's whole spiritual life together. Jeff shares how everyone worships something, whether they realize it or not, and how you can tell what a person truly values just by watching where their time and resources go. The conversation moves through Jeff's own journey from a conservative upbringing into a life shaped by musical worship.

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We weren't made to grow alone. God himself exists in perfect community, Father, Son, and Spirit, and he made us in that same image. This episode explores why we need safe, authentic relationships to truly grow: from research showing what happens when human connection is missing, to Jesus's own example of doing life closely with a small group of friends. It's an invitation to pursue real fellowship, the kind where we can be fully known and still fully loved.

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Tim sits down with Dr. Eric Sandras ("Dr. E") — pastor, professor, and author of The Ragamuffin Circus — to talk about what a life spent on the margins has taught him about God, grace, and belonging.

Eric's journey has taken him from a small timber town in Washington state to the streets of LA, Las Vegas, and now the underserved corners of Colorado Springs — working alongside people coming out of addiction, gang life, homelessness, and more. Along the way, he didn't just minister to people. He learned from them.

In this conversation, Eric shares the philosophy behind Sanctuary Church — a community built on the idea that people shouldn't have to keep secrets — his formula for healthy growth, and why he believes the church should feel more like a recovery room than a courtroom.

He also digs into his new book, The Ragamuffin Circus, a honest and personal look at what people on the edges of society have taught him about God, himself, and others. Deeply shaped by the legacy of Brennan Manning, it's the kind of book that stays with you.

For more info on Dr. E's book and other resources go to:

- Book: Ragamuffin Circus

- Church: The Sanctuary Church

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