What if some of the answers we're looking for in our relationships aren't found by thinking harder, but by learning to listen differently?

In this episode of Couples Unfiltered, we're joined by Janis Vogel, a transformational life coach, meditation guide, and creator of The L.O.V.E. Method, a practice rooted in self-awareness, nervous system regulation, and building a secure relationship with yourself.

Janis' work is deeply personal. Her own experiences with childhood trauma, divorce, and the pressure to simply "figure it all out" led her to a very different understanding of healing, relationships, and what it means to truly feel safe within yourself.

In this conversation, we explore the things we don't always notice: the messages our bodies are sending us, the patterns we carry into relationships, why hypervigilance can sometimes get in the way of connection, and what happens when we stop overriding what we already know somewhere inside of us.

We also talk about:

• Love, attachment, and self-trust

• Red flags, green flags, and why Janis has a different take on both

• Knowing when to stay and when to go

• How past experiences can shape present-day relationships

• Nervous system regulation and emotional safety

• Learning to listen to your body

• Becoming more connected to yourself before trying to connect with someone else

• The importance of being your whole, authentic self

The LOVE Method is a framework that breaks unhealthy relationship patterns at the root and helps powerhouse women build healthy relationships, secure attachment, and stop settling, by becoming the love they have been seeking all along.

Learn more about Janis and The L.O.V.E. Method:

JanisVogel.com

Instagram: @lovecoachjanis

hello@janisvogel.com

Couples Unfiltered is a media and experiential platform created by Lionel and Natalie Saulsberry, producing culturally grounded conversations and curated events that foster connection, community, and meaningful engagement.

This episode of Couples Unfiltered is sponsored in part by Color Story Florals in Vista, CA. We’ve partnered with them to feature handcrafted floral arrangements in our episodes, designed with 80% locally grown California flowers.

Use code UNFILTERED10 for 10% off your next order at croziersflowersvista.com or call 760-726-3800.

From Marseille, France, to Michelin-starred kitchens and national television, Christophe Rull has built an impressive career rooted in discipline, precision, and passion. Known for appearances on Netflix's Bake Squad and Food Network, Christophe and his wife, Wilma, have brought an authentic French pâtisserie experience to North County San Diego.

But this episode isn't just about pastry.

In this conversation, Lionel and Natalie sit down with Christophe and Wilma Rull to explore the partnership behind the business. Together, they discuss balancing marriage and entrepreneurship, navigating different strengths and personalities, building a shared vision, and creating a life that blends ambition with family.

Christophe shares his journey from France to Southern California, while Wilma offers insight into the strategic leadership and support that helps transform creative vision into reality. Their story is a powerful reminder that successful partnerships often thrive because each person brings something different to the table.

Whether you're married, running a business with your spouse, or simply curious about what makes a partnership work, this episode offers honest conversation, practical wisdom, and plenty of inspiration.

Guest: Christophe & Wilma Rull

@christopherullpatisserie n instagram

Christophe Rulls Patisserie

251 North City Drive suite 121, San Marcos, California 92078

This episode of Couples Unfiltered is sponsored in part by Color Story Florals in Vista, CA. We’ve partnered with them to feature handcrafted floral arrangements in our episodes, designed with 80% locally grown California flowers.

Use code UNFILTERED10 for 10% off your next order at croziersflowersvista.com or call 760-726-3800.

In this deeply moving episode of Couples Unfiltered, we sit down with Rob and Emilee McGowan, a couple married for more than 28 years whose relationship began as friendship and evolved into a lifelong partnership shaped by love, resilience, and unimaginable loss.

Long before romance, Rob and Emilee were close friends building separate lives and families. Both were raising children and navigating parallel chapters before friendship slowly turned into love, creating the foundation for a blended family rooted in trust, connection, and shared purpose.

Their lives changed forever when their son, Myles, was diagnosed at age three with a rare pediatric brain cancer called Ependymoma. After a courageous fight, Myles passed away in 2008. Rather than allowing grief to define them, Rob and Emilee transformed heartbreak into purpose by founding Myles Ahead of Cancer, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting caregivers and families navigating childhood cancer diagnoses, caregiving, and the devastating loss of a child.

Through advocacy, compassion, and partnerships with organizations like Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times and the Long Beach Ronald McDonald House, Myles Ahead of Cancer continues to provide meaningful support, community, and resources for families walking through the unimaginable.

Learn more or support their mission:
MylesAheadOfCancer.org
Instagram: www.instagram.com/MylesAheadofCancer/

In addition to their nonprofit work, Rob, also known as Skinny Black, co-hosts Skinny Black’s Lounge Podcast, a video-style podcast centered on culture, humor, real conversation, personal growth, and authentic dialogue from the perspective of Black men. Alongside co-hosts JT (CT) and Uncle Rennie (Tubbs), the podcast creates space for vulnerable, thoughtful, and often hilarious conversations aimed at strengthening relationships and community.

Watch or follow:
YouTube: Skinny Black’s Lounge Podcast
Instagram: www.instagram.com/skinnyblackslounge/
Host Instagram: www.instagram.com/sbl_host/

Together, Rob and Emilee also lead Diving Within, a coaching and consulting practice focused on executive coaching for Black men through shadow work, strategic authenticity, and personal growth, while also helping couples strengthen communication, emotional connection, accountability, and intimacy.

Learn more:
www.divingwithin.net/
Instagram: www.instagram.com/divingwithincoaching/

This conversation explores friendship, marriage, grief, resilience, healing, and legacy, and what it truly means to keep choosing one another through life’s hardest seasons.