Marcus and Amber Capone open up about his sixth ibogaine experience, the one word that defined it, and what it means to surrender during the hardest year of their lives. Subscribe for new episodes every week.

In this episode of Conversations with the Capones, Marcus and Amber sit down to talk about his decision to return to ibogaine for the sixth time in eight years—after the Netflix premiere of In Waves in War, a cross-country move, and the growing demands of Tara Mind. When Amber asks him to describe the experience in one word, his answer is immediate: God.

This conversation explores what surrender actually looks like for a veteran—not giving up, but letting go of the things that don’t matter so the things that can do fall into place. Marcus contrasts his first ibogaine experience with his sixth and they discuss neuroplasticity, the ski-tracks analogy for building new habits, and why discipline holds it all together.

They also open up about losing their close friend Dr. Nolan Williams, the Stanford neuroscientist who led the landmark VETS-Stanford ibogaine study, and recommit to the mission he helped define.

In this episode:

• Marcus’s decision to do ibogaine for the sixth time

• First experience vs. sixth: from darkness to light

• The ski-tracks analogy for neuroplasticity

• Amber’s perspective on faith and psychedelic-assisted therapy

• The 8-minute NSDR reset

• Honoring Dr. Nolan Williams

• Why the hard work begins after the “aha” moment

For veterans, military families, first responders and anyone navigating healing, faith and transformation.

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CONNECT with Amber and Marcus

Website: https://thecapones.com/

VETS: https://vetsolutions.org/

Tara Mind: https://taramind.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcus_amber_capone/

ABOUT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CAPONES

Amber and Marcus Capone are the co-founders of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions).

Marcus is the co-founder and chairman of VETS and a former Navy SEAL who served 13 years, including multiple deployments. He is also the CEO of Tara Mind, where he is expanding affordable access to psychedelic-assisted therapy for non-veterans.

Amber is the co-founder and CEO of VETS, an entrepreneur and a leading voice in mental health advocacy and human transformation.

Conversations with the Capones is a space for honest conversations about relationships, healing, leadership, identity and growth. Rooted in lived experience, this podcast is for anyone committed to evolving—no matter their past, present circumstances or where they are starting from.

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Marcus sits down with Dr. Michael Sapiro — Buddhist monk, clinical psychologist, and psychedelic therapist — to walk through his new book Truth Medicine and what actually happens inside ketamine-assisted therapy. Subscribe for new episodes every week.

In this episode of Conversations with the Capones, Dr. Sapiro walks through the thesis of Truth Medicine: Healing and Living Authentically Through Psychedelic Psychotherapy. After hundreds of sessions guiding ketamine-assisted therapy for combat veterans, first responders, and high-performers, he found something unexpected — the substance wasn't the agent of change. Speaking truth was. The episode covers what actually heals trauma, how the clinical protocol works, why he chose to work with veterans and first responders, and a closing message for anyone who feels they have tried everything.

This conversation explores the four domains of healing (physiological, psychological, social, spiritual), how childhood beliefs become 40-year behavior patterns, what real preparation and integration look like around a ketamine session, why combat veterans struggle specifically with control and emotional intolerance, the role of Buddhist meditation in Dr. Sapiro's clinical work, and the one-degree principle for sustainable change.

Marcus shares his own ongoing work with Dr. Sapiro as a coaching client and what it has surfaced about getting unstuck and doing the work. This is an honest conversation about the long road of healing — and about why no veteran should ever give up on getting care.

In this episode:

• Why Dr. Sapiro calls truth itself the medicine, not the psychedelic
• What the clinical ketamine therapy protocol actually involves, start to finish
• The four domains of healing and how they connect
• Why combat veterans and first responders need a different therapeutic approach
• The one-degree principle for sustainable change after a session
• Dr. Sapiro's closing message for veterans who feel they have tried everything

For veterans, military families, couples, first responders, and anyone navigating healing, growth, and reinvention.

Subscribe for new episodes every week.

VETS employees, staff, volunteers, and Ambassadors are not practitioners; all psychedelic-assisted therapy treatment takes place at vetted, third-party facilities that are monitored by medical professionals.

VETS does not advocate for decriminalization or legalization of psychedelic modalities, but rather the monitored, clinical use of psychedelic-assisted therapy.

Truth Medicine Book: https://www.michaelsapiro.com/book

Website: https://www.michaelsapiro.com/

Website: https://thecapones.com/

VETS: https://vetsolutions.org/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecaponespodcast/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcus_amber_capone/

Amber and Marcus Capone are the co-founders of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions).

Marcus is the Co-Founder and Chairman of VETS and a former Navy SEAL who served 13 years, including multiple combat deployments. Amber is the Co-Founder and CEO of VETS, entrepreneur, and a leading voice in mental health advocacy and human transformation.

Conversations with the Capones is a space for honest conversations about relationships, healing, leadership, identity, and growth.

Rooted in lived experience, this podcast is for anyone committed to evolving — no matter their past, present circumstances, or where they are starting from. Through real conversations, hard-earned lessons, and the questions people have been asking for years, Amber and Marcus explore what it truly means to level up in life, love, and purpose.

This is about doing the work, becoming unstuck, and building a life aligned with who you are meant to become.

#ConversationsWithTheCapones #TruthMedicine #KetamineTherapy #VeteranHealing

Amber and Marcus sit down for a married-couple conversation about integration — the work that happens after a psychedelic experience and why it matters more than the medicine itself. Subscribe for new episodes every week.

In this episode of Conversations with the Capones, Amber walks through what integration actually is — the period following a psychedelic experience where the brain becomes malleable enough to create new tracks over deep-rooted patterns. Marcus shares his own integration: how he stopped drinking after his first ibogaine experience, returned to golf and surfing, and worked with a coach weekly for years. Both contribute the everyday tools that make integration work — meditation, breathwork, prayer, community, and the "at least" practice that Amber developed for catching negative spirals before they take hold.

This conversation covers why most people misunderstand psychedelic-assisted therapy (the experience is only 10% of the healing), how the brain creates new neural pathways during the integration window, why discipline has to last a lifetime, and how a married couple supports each other through the work. Marcus shares a real-time example from earlier the same morning — he woke up depressed at 5 AM, used the practice, and bounced back within hours.

This is a peer-to-peer conversation between two people who have lived this. Amber shares her perspective as the spouse and witness, plus the cognitive techniques she developed before psychedelics were ever part of their life. Marcus shares the practices that have kept him whole for eight years and counting.

In this episode:

• Why dosing is only 10% of the healing
• The difference between an intention and an expectation
• How psychedelics create a window of neuroplasticity for new habits
• The stock market ticker analogy for measuring progress
• Marcus's morning bounce-back — and what made it possible
• The "at least" technique for stopping negative spirals
• Why discipline has to last a lifetime, not just six months

For veterans, military families, couples, first responders, and anyone navigating healing, growth, and reinvention.

Subscribe for new episodes every week.

VETS employees, staff, volunteers, and Ambassadors are not practitioners; all psychedelic-assisted therapy treatment takes place at vetted, third-party facilities that are monitored by medical professionals.

VETS does not advocate for decriminalization or legalization of psychedelic modalities, but rather the monitored, clinical use of psychedelic-assisted therapy.

Subscribe to Conversations with the Capones for new episodes every week.

Website: https://thecapones.com/

VETS: https://vetsolutions.org/

TaraMind: https://taramind.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecaponespodcast/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcus_amber_capone/

Amber and Marcus Capone are the co-founders of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions).

Marcus is the Co-Founder and Chairman of VETS and a former Navy SEAL who served 13 years, including multiple combat deployments. Amber is the Co-Founder and CEO of VETS, entrepreneur, and a leading voice in mental health advocacy and human transformation.

Conversations with the Capones is a space for honest conversations about relationships, healing, leadership, identity, and growth.

Rooted in lived experience, this podcast is for anyone committed to evolving — no matter their past, present circumstances, or where they are starting from. Through real conversations, hard-earned lessons, and the questions people have been asking for years, Amber and Marcus explore what it truly means to level up in life, love, and purpose.

This is about doing the work, becoming unstuck, and building a life aligned with who you are meant to become.

#ConversationsWithTheCapones #Integration #VeteranHealing #MarriageAndHealing