Everyone seems to recommend a bit of self-compassion when dealing with any problem. But what does that even mean? Kimberley meets CBT therapist Joshua Munn, who has lived experience of both ADHD and OCD, and he tells her how important it is to show compassion to oneself and how he learned to do it.

Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health to help create more self-awareness and understanding. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to join her and together they share insight and valuable tips.

You can get in touch if there’s anything you would like Kimberley to explore. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk. We might use what you tell us in the show, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know.

Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues.

Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Claire Justin Assistant Producer and Researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene

And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Fatoumata Jatta, to clarify what boundaries are. Together they explore how we can create and set our boundaries more clearly (and how we can hold them when other people push back). Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk. We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know.

Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues.

Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Maia Miller-Lewis Researcher: Grace Revill Executive Producer and Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Trudi Edginton, what we can do when our minds are overstimulated. Understanding the point at which we feel too busy and too stressed is the key to learning how to manage ourselves better.

Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips.

You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk. We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know.

Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues.

Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds.

Producer: Claire Justin

Assistant Producer and researcher: Samara Linton

Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar

Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable

Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey

Digital Lead: Richard Berry

Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene

And for BBC Sounds:

Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts