College Drop Off: You've Forever Lost Your Baby Living Under Your Roof
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This week Caroline is still getting the hang of driving in Miami, which somehow opens into the real subject of the episode: a week full of milestones. Caroline's son Teddy turned 10 — double digits, closer to college than to the day he was born — and Eva just finished dropping her second son off at college. Eva and Caroline talk through why the second college goodbye is harder than the first, the pressure to perform a "perfect dorm room" online, and a reframe from Claude that changed how Caroline thinks about mom guilt: being present isn't a character trait; it's a battery, and nobody runs on full all the time. Along the way: a very good Uber story, a case for "benign neglect," and why Miami parenting anxiety looks nothing like New York City parenting anxiety.
Eva's book of the week is Culpability, by Bruce Holsinger, about who's responsible when a self-driving car crashes with a teenager behind the wheel, and her new favorite phrase is "slowmaxxing" — the art of a slow, unhurried morning.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome & Miami Driving Chaos
3:46 The Milestones: Teddy Turns 10 & Sandy Goes to College
10:18 Why the Second Goodbye Hits Harder
16:34 Being Present Isn't a Character Trait — It's a Battery
18:15 Mom Guilt, Benign Neglect & Growing Up in NYC vs. Miami
23:55 The Best Uber Ride Ever (More Miami Driving Mishaps)
25:44 Word of the Week: Slow Maxing
29:27 Self-Driving Cars & Our Book of the Week: Culpability
32:16 Wrap-Up & Goodbyes
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