Jason Caceres joins Jameel Mayers and August Black for an unfiltered episode of Certified Bad Example that moves from viral relationship chaos to some much bigger questions about judgment, responsibility, power, and consequences.

The conversation starts with the strange world of prison romance and influencer Ash Trevino, who became known online for relationships with incarcerated men. Jameel, August, and Jason debate what drives someone toward relationships where freedom, access, money, and attention are so unevenly distributed.

From there, the conversation turns darker with a viral beach assault, raising questions about bystanders, accountability, and what people are willing to watch, record, or excuse when violence happens in public.

The group also gets into “robbery dating,” relationships where attraction and money become dangerously intertwined, and whether wealth or appearance causes people to ignore warning signs they would normally recognize immediately.

Then the episode moves into parenting, punishment, and boundaries, including the disturbing case of a Kentucky mother accused of forcing her 14-year-old daughter to consume alcohol as punishment after discovering she had been drinking. The story sparks a larger debate about discipline, humiliation, proportional consequences, and the point where trying to “teach a lesson” becomes harmful behavior itself.

Throughout the episode, Jason brings his perspective as an actor and storyteller to a conversation built around one of Certified Bad Example’s favorite questions: when somebody makes a terrible decision, what were they actually trying to accomplish?

Jason Caceres is an actor whose credits span television, film, and theater, including Criminal Minds, Hacks, Insatiable, Pam & Tommy, Kidding, Magic City, American Animal, and Ted Bundy.

In this episode:

• Jason Caceres joins Jameel Mayers and August Black

• The internet fascination with prison romances

• Ash Trevino and relationships with incarcerated men

• Attention, loneliness, money, and power imbalances in relationships

• A disturbing viral beach assault and the role of bystanders

• Why people sometimes record violence instead of intervening

• “Robbery dating” and relationships built around access to wealth

• Whether money and attractiveness cause people to overlook obvious red flags

• Parenting consequences versus punishment

• The Kentucky mother accused of forcing her teenage daughter to drink alcohol

• When teaching a child a lesson crosses a line

• Public humiliation, control, and accountability

• Why intention does not erase consequences

• The bad examples that somehow convince themselves they’re doing the right thing

Certified Bad Example is hosted by Jameel Mayers and August Black, breaking down real stories, questionable decisions, internet chaos, and the people who give the rest of us a perfect example of what not to do.

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Where does personal freedom end and professional responsibility begin?

In Episode 13 of Certified Bad Example, Jameel Mayers and co-host August Black get into three stories where the answer is anything but simple, from teachers facing consequences for what happens outside the classroom, to a mother leaving her four-year-old home alone overnight, to what can happen when someone decides to intervene in a dangerous situation.

Jameel also talks about balancing his director role in software, family life, and the podcast, plus an unexpected opportunity to write about fatherhood for Rolling Stone.

In this episode:

A Missouri teacher resigns after students and parents discover her OnlyFans account, raising questions about teachers, adult content, privacy, social media, and whether legal off-hours work should affect someone’s career.

A Utah art teacher is fired after distributing postcards featuring classical artwork with nudity. Jameel and August debate the difference between nudity and sexual content, parental expectations, school policies, and whether administrators sometimes punish teachers simply to make controversy disappear.

A Georgia mother is arrested after allegedly leaving her four-year-old child home alone overnight while she went drinking. The conversation turns to child endangerment, parental responsibility, alcohol, emergency preparedness, and why independence for children looks very different depending on age and culture.

August shares the story of stopping to help an injured bicyclist, only to have a bystander falsely accuse him of causing the accident. Jameel explains why being a good Samaritan can carry another layer of risk for a Black man when witnesses, assumptions, and law enforcement enter the situation.

The episode closes with a disturbing Ohio case involving a father who murdered a man after discovering evidence involving the sexual abuse of his 11-year-old daughter, opening a difficult conversation about parental rage, vigilantism, justice, and consequences.

Timestamps

00:00 Back-to-school banter and podcasting setup

02:53 Jameel’s day job and balancing podcasting

04:31 Rolling Stone reaches out about fatherhood writing

05:23 The weird world of OnlyFans

09:08 Missouri teacher resigns after OnlyFans discovery

10:42 Should legal off-hours work cost a teacher their job?

14:14 Teachers, students, privacy, and social media

19:49 Utah art teacher fired over classical nudity

21:21 Nudity versus sex in art and culture

24:38 Why the distinction between nudity and sex matters

27:21 When schools fire employees to quiet controversy

33:02 Georgia mother charged after leaving four-year-old alone overnight

36:53 Why four-year-olds cannot safely handle emergencies alone

39:38 Children, independence, and cultural differences in Japan

42:50 August’s good Samaritan story and a false accusation

Certified Bad Example is hosted by Jameel Mayers with co-host August Black, breaking down parenting, pop culture, public behavior, accountability, and the bad decisions that make the rest of us ask: What were they thinking?

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