Jason and Ricky welcome CHGO's Will Gottlieb back to the pod to discuss early takeaways from the 2025 NBA Playoffs and how the Heat getting swept by the Cavs in historic fashion illustrates just how far away the Bulls still are when it comes to really competing. Plus, looking at potential Bulls trade targets if they want to make a splash, a live reaction to the possible end of the Giannis era in Milwaukee and a look at the futures of Josh Giddey, Coby White and Nikola Vucevic.

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Jason and Ricky discuss the Bulls letting go of shooting coach Peter Patton, who was well-liked by the players and seemed to have a tangible impact on development. Why would Arturas Karnisovas do this and why does he still have his job? How does ownership actually feel about the direction of the franchise? Ricky also highlights a couple draft prospects after the Bulls lost their lottery tiebreaker to the Mavs, which slots them in at No. 12. Finally, the start of the 2025 NBA Playoffs again shows how far away the Bulls are from real competitiveness.

Jason and Ricky recap the Bulls getting embarrassed by the Heat yet again to end their season in the NBA Play-In Tournament. But while this loss only raises more skepticism about the future, Arturas Karnisovas did his best to spin the season as a resounding success in his end-of-season press conference. So, what comes next for the Bulls now that their Mickey Mouse run has ended with a thud?

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