What makes spiritual roots healthy enough to withstand life's droughts and storms?

In this episode of Called Beyond, Tim sits down with longtime Novo missionaries Steve Hoke and Myra Perrine to explore the powerful imagery of Jeremiah 17:7–8. Drawing from decades of ministry experience, Steve and Myra reflect on the importance of trust, authenticity, vulnerability, and abiding in God's love as essential foundations for a life that bears lasting fruit.

Together, they share personal stories of hardship, healing, and spiritual formation, revealing how God often deepens our roots through seasons we would never choose for ourselves.

Whether you're walking through a difficult season or simply longing to grow deeper in your relationship with Jesus, this conversation offers wisdom and encouragement for cultivating healthy roots that endure.

Episode Highlights

• Why drought seasons can deepen our trust in God
• The connection between vulnerability and spiritual growth
• Learning to process pain instead of hiding it
• Trust as the "taproot" of faith
• How abiding in God's love transforms us from the inside out
• The role of authentic community in spiritual formation
• What it means to cultivate healthy roots that produce lasting fruit

Key Scripture

Jeremiah 17:7–8 (NLT)

"But blessed are those who trust in the Lord and have made the Lord their hope and confidence. They are like trees planted along a riverbank, with roots that reach deep into the water..."

Guest Bios

Steve Hoke has served with Novo for more than three decades, helping develop leaders, strengthen ministry teams, and equip disciple-makers around the world. A gifted teacher, mentor, and author, Steve is passionate about helping people experience the transforming grace of God and discover deeper levels of trust and dependence on Jesus.

Myra Perrine has served with Novo for more than 30 years, investing in the spiritual formation and development of ministry leaders around the world. Known for her wisdom, authenticity, and commitment to helping others experience God's love, Myra has spent decades mentoring, training, and encouraging people toward deeper intimacy with Christ.

In this episode of Called Beyond, Tim sits down with Will Jones, the founder of GoEthne, a ministry focused on evangelism, disciple-making, and equipping the local church for mission among the nations.

Through an honest and deeply moving conversation centered around Psalm 67, Will shares how God redirected the trajectory of his life.

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💬 “Be okay with being nothing. God creates something out of nothing.” — Will Jones

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• What it means to courageously obey God
• Why disciple-making is more than simply gaining knowledge
• The difference between making decisions for Jesus and becoming true followers of Jesus
• How ordinary believers can participate in God’s global mission
• The urgency of eternity and sharing the gospel
• Why humility and surrender are essential for spiritual fruitfulness

Will also shares a powerful story from his teenage years that profoundly shaped his understanding of eternity and continues to fuel his passion for evangelism today. About the Guest Will Jones is passionately in love with Jesus Christ, dedicated to reaching the lost, and loves to equip the church to do likewise. He has served as the Founder and Lead Communicator for GoEthne for over 10 years. In 2010, God called him away from the professional basketball world to minister as an evangelist. Now, he travels globally communicating the message of the Gospel and equipping the local church.

In this episode of Called Beyond Tim sits down with Cynthia Anderson, a missionary, trainer, and host of the Dare to Multiply podcast. Together, they explore what it means to remain rooted in Jesus and how a life of abiding naturally leads to multiplication.

From her upbringing in Nigeria to decades of ministry across Asia and beyond, Cynthia shares powerful stories of how God uses ordinary obedience to produce extraordinary, multiplying fruit. Whether it’s launching an online training that reached thousands across 122 nations or discipling new believers in unexpected places, her story points to one central truth: lasting fruit flows from staying connected to Jesus.

• Why abiding in Jesus—not skill or strategy—is the foundation of multiplication
• How God uses ordinary people to spark extraordinary movements
• The story behind a global disciple-making training that reached 5,000+ people in 122 nations
• A powerful full-circle moment: returning to Nigeria to see fruit among her father’s people group
• What it looks like to recognize and respond to “persons of peace”
• Why many Western believers are underestimating their role in disciple-making
• The importance of community in staying rooted and walking in step with Jesus

Cynthia Anderson is a disciple-maker, author, and global trainer with over 30 years of experience equipping believers to multiply disciples. Raised as a missionary kid in Nigeria and seasoned through hands-on ministry across Asia, she now helps activate everyday Christians to live out their calling.

Cynthia is passionate about helping everyday followers of Jesus grow in confidence that God can use them to produce lasting, multiplying fruit.